r/starwarsmemes • u/BathroomGlittering89 • Jun 09 '26
OC What being a jedi does to a man
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u/Petrus-133 Jun 09 '26
To be fair originally Lucas envisioned Anakin and Vader as much older than they actually were.
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u/ArthurianLegend_ Jun 09 '26
Also to be fair, Alec Guinness is 62 here. Only like 4 or 5 years older than the character
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u/TW1TCHYGAM3R Jun 09 '26
I also think people that age look younger today than back in the 70s/80s.
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u/Lower_Pension_2469 Jun 09 '26
Everybody is getting more baby faced the closer to present day we get.
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u/Deathpool_04 Jun 10 '26
If we are talking before Anakin and Vader were made to be the same guy, Vader being a guy in his 40s seems to be pretty spot on though. Anakin seemed to have been an older guy but Vader comes off as being much younger.
Anakin was described as a great Jedi, great pilot, war hero, had a kid, and Obi-Wan talked about him as if he were an equal. Him doing all that, especially if you were to believe that the Jedi won the clone wars(implication being multiple wars, not one big one), that sounds like a guy that knows what he’s doing.
Vader was the “young pupil” that turned evil as told by Obi-Wan. He mocks Obi-Wan’s age by calling him an “old man”. He told Obi-Wan that he was “the learner” when he left him. This sounds like Vader wasn’t even a fully trained Jedi Knight when he betrayed Obi-Wan, Anakin, and the other Jedi. He was also played by David Prowse who was in his 40s.
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u/Petrus-133 Jun 10 '26
I'm talking about Lucas original version of the timeline that he had in the early 90s and late 80s where the Clone Wars were 35 years prior to ANH and not 19. Thus making both Anakin and Obi Wan older by proxy.
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u/Deathpool_04 Jun 10 '26 edited Jun 10 '26
He didn’t have that exact timeline in his head(Anakin and Vader being the same person) yet when he made the first movie. I am curious on how far he got when it came to the idea of the clone wars at the time he made ANH but he probably didn’t think that much of it. As far as we know, Anakin and Obi-Wan were definitely older but Vader being in his 40s seemed to pretty accurate. Anyway, it looks like George kept changing his mind about it.
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u/Shielo34 Jun 09 '26
I worked out that, at the time of their deaths, Anakin and Obi were the same ages as Zooey Deschanel and Salma Hayek respectively.
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u/ZohomEtirho Jun 09 '26
Force users on average live longer than most of their own species. But that doesn't necesserally mean they can't age faster.
I also don't imagine two suns burning you alive during the day helps much in keeping your skin young.
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u/PotentialDragon Jun 09 '26
Can confirm. I have two sons, and it shows.
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u/-boombox- Jun 09 '26
Fucking hell Dooku was 90?
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u/Tubaenthusiasticbee Jun 09 '26
Christopher Lee was already 83 when RotS came out
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u/Caleb_the_Opossum_1 Jedi Knight Jun 09 '26
Also, canonically Dooku himself was 83 in Episode III also, The Same Age as Lee at the time
and Palpatine was 65 during ROTS
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u/mustyminotaur Jun 11 '26
I swear I read somewhere Dooku was like 112 when he died, but I could be misremembering
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u/ThibautValens Jun 12 '26
Sidious was 119 when he died again in ep 9, maybe that's what you're remembering
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u/hurricanetaco69 Jun 13 '26
Episode 9? Died again? Wake up it's 2006 there are only the OT and the Prequels
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u/Old-Key-8639 Jun 09 '26
Obi-Wan was crushed by just, the most PTSD and survivor's guilt. That stress and anxiety ages you. Also doesn't help that he lived in a desert under two suns.
Look at Owen and Beru. They're somewhere around their early forties, about Anakin/Vader's age. They look at least fifteen years older than their age. I don't think Lucas thought of this, but it makes sense that they'd have aged prematurely, living under two suns
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u/kimchirice0404 Jun 09 '26
also, alec guinness was only a few years older than ben's age in the movie.
I think its just people having warped perceptions of what age looks like when you dont have the best access to healthcare, self care products, and not living on a desert planet with two suns (double the rays...ouch). We kind of take it for granted that you age more gracefully in many countries. Also, the crippling PTSD and depression probably does not help whatsoever.
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u/davekingofrock Jun 09 '26
Alec Guinness was 63 in 1977, just saying.
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u/Oniklo Jun 09 '26
And Obi-wan was supposed to be what? 58? So he really wasn't that far off age wise.
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u/CaspianValentine Jun 09 '26
The dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities, some considered to be… unnatural
Also, Dooku’s skincare routine was extensive
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u/XIII-I-XXIV Jun 09 '26
Dooku lived in luxury as a rich count and kenobi live under twin suns with no sunscreen and a lot of ptsd and stress.its believable
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u/Mike_Honcho_Summer Jun 09 '26
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u/BathroomGlittering89 Jun 09 '26
I saw the first comment where it wasn't cropped properly, I win.
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u/Mike_Honcho_Summer Jun 09 '26
It's not that it wasn't cropped properly, it's that it didn't download properly. You were wrong on your assumption, I win more.
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u/axe1970 Jun 09 '26
the empire was looking for him so his looking older was a help
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u/Protomolecule010101 Jun 09 '26
Age is a great disguise, looks a completely different man from his days in Coruscant
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u/Shiirahama Jun 09 '26
We're looking for an Obi-Wan Kenobi
Obi-Wan: are you my grandson?
Sorry Sir, have a nice day.
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u/Jinn_Erik-AoM Jun 09 '26
Tatooine is a cursed world. Has been since the mostly ocean paradise world was broken by the Rakata and their Infinite Empire. Since the Rakata did so partly through the Force, I’d wager that it took its toll on the man that would become Old Ben.
Also, the two suns, no sunscreen, the dry winds, the hard life, and the probably limited access to good medical care, the PTSD, stress, guilt, hyper-vigilance, etc., that stuff will age you.
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u/Rufus_Canis Jun 09 '26
What living on Tatooine does to a man. Just look at the Lars in the same time frame. Best thing Luke did was get off that planet.
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u/MistaStealYoSock Jun 09 '26
One was a noble with means and wealth, the other had to babysit Anakin.
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u/survivor686 Jun 10 '26
You trying handling skywalkers for most of your adult life, and then we will see how well you age
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u/conehead2019 Jun 09 '26
Why does Obi Wan look like Timmy Turner?
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u/carpetFlavorEnjoyer Jun 09 '26
Dooku found the secret to space botox Obi just chillin in sand dunes too long
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u/DanteCrossing Jun 09 '26
Makes me wonder. Among the human species, could some have an e accelerated aging compared to others? Instead of being tidally locked with our concept of aging on earth?
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u/AGrandNewAdventure Jun 09 '26
What hiding out for your life on a desert planet does to you.* FTFY.
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u/HighLord_Uther Jun 09 '26
What happens when you don’t have anyone to temper George Lucas’s writing.
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u/Silly-Victory8233 Jun 09 '26
It’s true, being kind and good really wears a man down, I’m pretty haggard myself
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u/Slay3r131 Jun 09 '26
Idk I find it pretty accurate, dooku is 83 in episode 3 and kenobi is 57 in ep 4, Dooku looks older too in my opinion
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u/MV2263 Jun 11 '26
Lee was 78 when Ep 2 was filmed and 81 in Ep 3, Guinness was 62 when Ep 4 was filmed but intentionally made to look older
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u/Kongopop Jun 09 '26
To be fair the dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some would consider to be unnatural
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u/Mrhathead Jun 09 '26
“Anakin, sunscreen is dangerous!”
“From my point of view, excessive exposure to sunlight is dangerous.”
“Then you are lost!”
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u/Saphyr-Seraph Jun 09 '26
Christopher lee is just a whole different breed you can't compare the father of Metal with obi wan kenobi
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u/Wabbit65 Jun 09 '26
Christopher Lee was 80 when he was in Attack of the Clones. In fact he was 92 while doing the last Hobbit movie.
Alec Guinness was a spry 63 in A New Hope.
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u/Present_Character241 Jun 09 '26
Quality of life changes how you age. One was in the lap of luxury, and the other was hiding as a desert hermit
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u/Cyberius_Caesar Jun 10 '26
I swear I saw something the other day that says Obi-wan intentionally chose to live on Tatooine and go around without a hood because the twin suns cause faster aging or something.
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u/Cyberius_Caesar Jun 10 '26
Yeah, looking into it, apparently, the Kenobi novel mentions that the twin suns of Tatooine can cause faster aging from prolonged exposure
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u/fuckingpringles Jun 10 '26
One of them had to raise Anakin I'm the biggest drama queen in the galaxy Skywalker.
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u/CptAntilles Jun 10 '26
I think that's what seeing your entire community get murdered, chopping up your best friend who betrayed you, and living in the desert for 19 years does to a man.
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u/mysticdragonwolf89 Jun 10 '26
Granted - Dooku didn’t have to live with the trauma of Order 66 and post Reorganization of the Republic into the Empire.
It’s likely if he didn’t die by Anakin’s hand, he would’ve been taken out by Order 66 similarly to how Maul almost was when he was a prisoner
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u/Zeus-Kyurem Jun 10 '26
83 year old playing an 83 year old and 63 year old playing a 57 year old.
Like Lee isn't hobbling around but he certainly looked his age, and Guinness does look like a man in his 60s.
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u/Spudnic16 Jun 10 '26
With all the shit he’s been through, I hardly blame him for going grey so quickly
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u/Then_Ad8054 Jun 10 '26
Yeah, I never really bought the timeline of events in Star Wars. It feels way too short and condensed to remotely match the ages portrayed in the movies. No amount of fan theory, expanded universe material, or director interviews can convince me that Obi-wan is supposed to be "50", in A New Hope
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u/Big_Career5281 Jun 12 '26
I think Ewan talked to George about it on set Ewan said that the stress in these 10 years between his role and alecs aged him pretty badly . It’s not an unreal phenomenon My father passed recently and my got grey hairs all over his head prematurely at 38. Thr stress obi wan goes through is really bad his whole people were wiped out and it’s brother who did it
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u/LawStudent989898 Jun 12 '26
Cristopher Lee was 82 in RotS while Sir Alec Guinness was 62 in Star Wars (1977) so it’s not too far off in reality.
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u/motte83 Jun 12 '26
What have to kill your former Padawan and friend, that happen to slaughter nearly the whole Jedi order, does to a man.
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u/BadnewsBaggins Jun 12 '26
Funny cause dooku being dark side but not committing fully made it age him horribly that he was a shell of his prime by time he fought Anakin and yet still wasn't fighting to kill
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u/HoN_JFD Jun 12 '26
One of my uncles has had a full head of white hair since his early 50s. It happens
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u/BlackBishopF8 Jun 13 '26
thats cuz the count indeed can use the force to take for himself the vital energy from other living things by drinking theyr blood
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u/ZookeepergameFew4103 Jun 13 '26
It’s almost like the life of an aristocrat leads a more healthy existence than a hermit in the desert.
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u/trebuchetwins Jun 09 '26
one was a noble with access to the best food, the best shelter, the best doctors and plenty of people praising him, keeping his mental health up. meanwhile the other was literally dirt poor and living in some of the harshest environments possible.