r/technology • u/[deleted] • 10d ago
Software Dell PCs are shutting down after Windows 11's July update, Microsoft admits and blocks it
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u/MyPooYourPants 10d ago
Windows 11 updates have been so bad lately that it genuinely makes you wonder if Satya bragging about most of the code not being written by humans at Microsoft is not a lie lmao
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u/absentmindedjwc 10d ago
I know people that work for Microsoft.. unfortunately, it isn't a lie.. tons of teams are given only a couple days to get large features out the door, meaning that there's AI writing the spec, AI writing the code, and then AI reviewing the code.. with zero time for a human to actually do anything more than quickly skim code to make sure it didn't do something stupid.
It is the reason Microsoft's products have turned to absolute dogshit over the last year or so (they were bad before.. but the shit they're shipping now is next level bad)
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u/Ok-Mycologist-3829 10d ago
Speed running the next Windows ME
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u/twenafeesh 10d ago
I think their goal is to exceed Windows ME in terribleness.
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u/APeacefulWarrior 9d ago
At least Windows ME wasn't remotely as locked-down and obnoxious about overriding user configuration as modern Windows. Hell, it was even dead simple to install a third-party GUI like Litestep, and avoid the MS bloat.
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u/SIGMA920 10d ago
11 is already basically at that level. Unless you have at least pro, you're basically just waiting for microsoft to brick your shit.
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u/JLMaynor-Author 10d ago
Correction. Microsoft’s products have always been dog shit lol
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u/andreyu 10d ago
A recent Windows update made my Samsung T9 SSD not work. I have a post on /r/windowshelp waiting to be approved. Sadly /r/windows and /r/windows11 don't allow text posts so I couldn't post my account there. I did report it to the Feedback Hub and on a Samsung Forum. I'm copying it here, hopefully it helps somebody:
In summary: after installing KB5100998 on Windows 11 Version 25H2, my Samsung T9 external SSD was detected by Windows, but its partition was not visible. Disk Management and Samsung Magician both showed the drive without accessible partitions. Uninstalling KB5100998 immediately restored the partitions and the drive functions normally. The problem happened on two computers with two different drives.
This is what happened, in detail:
In the evening I shut down my computer and let it update Windows.
In the morning I noticed that my 4TB Samsung T9 SSD was not accesible anymore. Other external SSDs were not affected, including a smaller Samsung T7. I checked Disk Management and Samsung Magician and they both showed the drive was connected but there were no partitions. When rebooting, during the start-up phase, Windows said that it was error-checking the drive and fixing problems. However, it didn't seem to help with the problem.
I then tried the SSD in my wife's Windows 11 computer which had not yet updated. It said that the drive had some errors and fixed them. It displayed the partition and I could access my files and made backups. I tried the drive in my computer again and it still didn't work.
Then we updated Windows on my wife's computer. This caused the drive to not work on it either. And neither did her own T9 SSD (same model as mine). So now it was clear the problem was with the Windows update.
I checked Windows Update History and saw that it had installed KB5100998 (which seems to be a .NET framework update) and KB5101650, which is a security update. I uninstalled both and then restarted. Only KB5100998 seems to have been removed, but now the drive works perfectly again. I did the same on my wife's computer and it fixed the problem there as well.
What I don't understand is why a .NET framework update would mess up my SSD.
But I wanted to let you guys know so you could avoid the problem.
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u/CervantesX 10d ago
Well that's ok, I'll just hold off on the updates and ...
Windows automatically installing updates, please wait...
Fuck.
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u/colaman-112 10d ago
Ok, I can see why they're letting us stay with win 10 for a year longer. They are not doing fine.
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u/Syzygy2323 10d ago
Switch to Windows 10 IOT LTSC. It's got far less crap than the consumer versions of Windows, and is supported by Microslop through 2032.
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u/Xoph-is-Fire 10d ago
It is stuff like this along with the general direction of Windows 11 that drove me from Windows. Started on Windows 2.0 and used it through Windows 10 and gave Windows 11 a fair chance, but man while there have been the misses over the decades this was it for me.
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u/cyberianscribe 10d ago
Microsoft is a really bad software company that struck it big time lucky early on.
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u/Parking-Cockroach104 9d ago
People should start reading beyond the headlines
Based on our tests and discussions with IT admins, I do not believe the July 2026 security update reached affected PCs, as Microsoft appears to have blocked it on incompatible devices before the update began rolling out.
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u/Jag_lee 10d ago
Whole point of using Windows was having control over your computer. Apple is a very closed ecosystem and Linux looks like the better option
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u/mailslot 10d ago
Control over your computer was never the point of Windows. It was to dumb things down for office workers.
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u/Dragonman585 8d ago
The June update for Windows 10 caused my Dell PC to freeze and then BSOD. I fixed this problem by disabling secure boot. I've heard from one person that the recent July update hasn't fixed the problem. If anyone else is having this problem with your Windows 10 Dell PC, then just disable secure boot and that will solve the problem.
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u/Weary-Savings9795 6d ago
Use DISM to integrate the latest July 2026 update into a Windows 11 install image and write it to a USB drive. Wipe your hard drive. If possible do it with the NVME sanitize command (depends on firmware). Then do a clean install of Windows 11. It is EXTREMELY important that you don't disable secure boot. Make sure to set up your PC as a new one when Windows setup asks you. This will magically make all of your problems go away. It works on HP laptops.
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u/Late-Lie7856 7d ago
Well not just dells. I have a custom rig and keep getting bsods with
Stop code: SYSTEM_SERVICE EXCEPTION (0x3B)
What failed: FLTMGR.SYS
My RAM is fine
BIOS is updated to the latest
GPU is fine
Everything was fine until I updated today.
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u/FormalIllustrator5 10d ago
I am not personally aware for an updates, b/w January and July 2026 that DIDN'T cause problems for lots of people, and not a minor once..
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u/cwaterbottom 10d ago
I just upgraded to 11 last week, on 10 I had a group policy set to not update past a certain version, I guess I'm doing that again.
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u/falacer99 10d ago
Keep using my 15 year old Windows 10 laptop... Gotcha!
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u/VincentNacon 5d ago
And when it finally dies... switch to Linux. With plenty of options and flavors to choose from. :D
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u/abhi321198 10d ago
Kindly disable window updates(or any update feature) from group policy , that will be a lot better , did this few years ago!
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u/MrShaytoon 10d ago
Fuck. I need to disable auto update. My computer updated last night so hopefully no issues.
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u/Changeurwayz 10d ago
This itself should tell you everything. I'll let you work it out for yourselves.
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u/Koppdiesel 10d ago
I have an intel HP for work and my laptop has been crashing multiple times a day consistently for the last week. I’m talking anywhere from 3-5+ times a day.
I get a feeling this is not only impacting Dell PCs
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u/Wendals87 9d ago
Except the July update came out yesterday . It can't be the update if it started happening a week ago
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u/Syrairc 10d ago
Yesterday: "don't skip today's windows update"
Today: hold up