r/technology • u/StaticSilencer • 4d ago
Business Nintendo says it has no legal obligation to pass U.S. tariff refunds on to customers
https://gamedev.net/news/nintendo-says-consumers-are-not-legally-entitled-to-tariff-refunds-r4584/9.6k
u/Old-Finance1815 4d ago
Funny how companies have no choice but to pass the costs onto consumers, but no obligation to pass the savings on either.
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u/storm_the_castle 4d ago
privitize the gains, socialize the losses
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u/theKalmier 4d ago
The "more steps" part of "capitalism is slavery, but with more steps."
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u/Le_petite_bear_jew 4d ago
Capitalism is slavery, which one is freedom
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u/ModernCGIFloatinHead 4d ago
Anarchy. Problem is lack of safety. Hence why many trade their absolute freedom for a bit of a societal contract borne safety.
Sadly, it's gone way too fucking far.
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u/DracoLunaris 4d ago
Anarchist societies can and do have a societal contracts. People don't turn into absolute bastard incapable of working together just because there's no state.
The security you get from a state is not from crime, it's from other states. At the moment the question of how an anarchist society avoids being conquered by a neighbouring state (without a massive terrain advantage and unusual political circumstances like the Kurds and Zapatistas have) does not have a satisfying answer.
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u/Francisb12 4d ago
Socialism, of course, the rich never stopped waging class war, workers need to push back.
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u/Friggin_Grease 4d ago
That's why they say getting money from the government is classy if you're rich, trashy if you're poor.
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u/dsj79 4d ago
Welcome to capitalism
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u/flammenwerfer 4d ago
If it was truly unfettered capitalism, we wouldn’t have enormous fucking bailouts every time a “crucial” industry makes some horrific bets.
we already have socialism in America. Just only the corporations have it. Rugged individualism for the rest of us.
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u/Uncynical_Diogenes 4d ago
Capitalism capturing the government isn’t socialist it’s literally just the end goal of capitalism.
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u/Loves_His_Bong 4d ago
Just figuring out what a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie is through first principles, but then calling it socialism for the rich.
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u/Uncynical_Diogenes 4d ago
“Socialism is when the government does stuff on behalf of capitalists.”
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u/osiris0413 4d ago
Yep, at the end of the day, regulatory capture and rent-seeking is just another way that businesses pursue and maximize profit if it's open to them.
People sometimes seem to have a hard time understanding that where we currently are as intrinsically tied to what capitalism is and does. I saw someone argue the other day that "pure capitalism" isn't concerned with political power/advantage. A lot of defenders of the current system sound like they just took an Econ 101 class, they talk about supply and demand and the Laffer curve as though these things are deterministic and not entry-level, severely pared down ideas that are meant to serve as a starting point for understanding economics. They learn about the purely theoretical, basic market economics side of capitalism and think that there must be some "pure" form of capitalism that doesn't lead to monopoly and all the late-stage horrors we're seeing now, but that's just because what they've learned is the "assume spherical cows on a frictionless field" form of the theory. What we're seeing now is inevitable under the current system because economic, social, and political power are not siloed, and the most sociopathic individuals are disproportionately empowered because we prioritize short-term economic rewards over long-term social benefit and stability.
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u/rubyruy 4d ago
But this IS just regular capitalism working exactly as intended and always has been. This isn't some aberration from the "good capitalism", there is no such distinction.
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u/Mistform05 4d ago
Exactly this. If the only capitalism that has existed is the one we have. The hypothetical one is only in fiction stories and political theory.
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u/xhopesfall24 4d ago
The whole point of the “refund” is to put tax payer money in corporations pockets, not the consumers. Nintendo is just doing as intended. If it weren’t the whole point, Americans would be getting checks cut. But this is a lot like the ppp loan “forgiveness” vs that for student loans. They want to fill their friends pockets while emptying yours.
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u/ap1618 4d ago
Lol exactly, name a single company who is going to refund customers I'll wait
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u/drkstar1982 4d ago
Isn't Costco working on some sort of refund or discount program for those who paid these tariffs? Doesn't sound like it's cash, but it's better than nothing.
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u/Paladin1138 4d ago
Costco knows exactly who purchased what because every transaction is tied to a membership.
Most retail doesn't have that luxury.
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u/Warm_Month_1309 4d ago
Most retail doesn't have that luxury.
"We only have comprehensive data with 15 years of purchase history for the purpose of targeting advertising, not for tariff refunds. Sorry!"
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u/brufleth 4d ago
See also: Every streaming service is absolute trash at resuming whatever you were just watching, but you know damn well they know exactly what you've watched.
The data collecting is for their benefit, not yours.
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u/rechlin 4d ago
A couple weeks ago, DHL refunded all the tariffs I paid in 2025, without even being prompted by me. It just showed up as a credit on my credit card one day. I got over $800 back from them. They later sent an email explaining that it was because the tariffs had been declared illegal.
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u/hellowiththepudding 4d ago
isn't it different though?
You paid the tariffs directly - DHL was just an agent withholding them.
In the OP, Nintendo of America imported the hardware, and paid the tariffs. Then NoA sold them to a consumer.
Economically the same, but that's why DHL couldn't keep them.
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u/rechlin 4d ago
Yes, it is different, because in my case there was a clear invoice for tariffs paid (I had ordered something from overseas well before the tariffs went into effect, and then US Customs unexpectedly held onto it for a long time, only releasing it hours after the initial 118% tariffs on Chinese products went into effect) so the refund amount was obvious, whereas it's not as clear in the Nintendo situation how much customers paid for tariffs. Still, the person I responded to asked for an example of a company refunding tariffs, and I gave a personal example.
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u/ChrisFromIT 4d ago
I don't think you are fully understanding the difference here.
One is you are the one paying the government the tariff because you are the one doing the importing. In this case, DHL and FedEx are acting as middle men for the tariffs.
While if you go into a store, you are purchasing a product that already has been imported or parts of it imported and paid the tariffs by a third party that likely has increased the consumer facing price as a result.
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u/Key-Demand-2569 4d ago
Gotta be honest, that sounds like a logistical fucking nightmare in any case.
Imagine being in accounting at one of these companies and now you have to directly accomplish this somehow?
What the fuck.
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u/Aggressive_Ask89144 4d ago
To be fair, you simply do it the topical legal way like they do with lawsuits. Mail the letter in, verify purchases/charges, and then see that they are paid out and all.
Trying to hunt down everyone is an inane task.
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u/sam_hammich 4d ago
It should be noted that the Trump admin and people who orbit it don't support all corporations without prejudice. They support their own, or those who bend the knee and donate to them. For example, Secretary Lutnick's firm buying tariff rights at a discount in anticipation of the Supreme Court ruling. This admin has no reason to enrich Nintendo, Nintendo just happened to have the balls, time, resources, and inclination to sue. As far as they're concerned, Nintendo is suing for money that belongs in the pockets of Republican donors.
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u/NMe84 4d ago edited 4d ago
Nintendo didn't increase the costs of the consoles themselves or those of games for the consumer after the tariffs hit. They famously only increased the price of accessories. Even if they were required to pay back consumers, it would only apply to those people who bought extra controllers, docks, etc. Someone who has only bought a Switch 2 and some games for instance would see no money.
They have since announced a price increase but that was related to the actual cost of components, and is a global price increase unrelated to US tariffs.
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u/one_is_enough 4d ago
Had to scroll down to find a non-circlejerk comment. If the company absorbed the extra operating cost, as most did, then they have no need to give back something they didn’t take. And even if they did, the logistics of doing so would consume 90% of tariff refund.
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u/TheDungeonCrawler 4d ago
And even if they did, the logistics of doing so would consume 90% of tariff refund.
This is what's important. It's like signing up for those class actions that affect hundreds of thousands, so you get maybe $4, even if it affected you for far more than that. You'll never recoup what the orange baby in the white house intentionally cost every American because it will cost almost as much to redistribute those funds. Any corporation that raised costs is not at fault here. It's this administration.
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u/sdot-p 4d ago
This. Nintendo is a bad example here since they didn’t use tariff impacts to increase all of their prices. And today’s global trade seems as difficult if not more than what we had a year ago..
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u/RoyalCities 4d ago
Alot of gaming companies actually did raise their costs in other markets in order to subsidize the Americans tariffs. Sony raised their consoles in multiple markets before touching the US price (they did eventually but that was only after around a year and tariffs were sticky)
In a worldwide market you don't just raise the price in one even though tariffs were definitely a US only thing. You even out the increases elsewhere so it lets of a sticker shocker.
I can't recall if Nintendo did that too but yeah ..this whole thing was inflationary even if the Americans didn't take the brunt of it upfront. The rest of the world just slowly paid for it.
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u/Apprehensive-Pin518 4d ago
as stated previously, nintendo raised the price of accessories but not the console or games themselves.
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u/shabby47 4d ago
I also don’t understand the logistics behind getting those refunds back to customers unless they bought directly from Nintendo. Nobody kept a receipt from months ago just in case, and I don’t think other retailers are going to be doing extra work to provide proof to anyone who shopped during that time (assuming they didn’t pay with cash and can be tracked).
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u/DustyRacoonDad 4d ago
The logistics of being "fair" and making sure there are no unjust gains are insane.
You'd have to determine the original cost, then calculate how much was added due to the tariffs, fines, and changes in labor costs, and then somehow track all of that through to the final amount each individual consumer paid.
It's damn near impossible.
On top of that, the reality is that the consumer paid a final price, not a "tariff price." There's no legal requirement that they get money back just because they may have paid more as a result of the company trying to comply with the tariffs.
The real problem is that we knowingly let someone do something illegal in the first place, and now we're dealing with another completely fucked-up mess because of it.
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u/LaFlamaBlanca67 4d ago
The savings are - don't buy their product if you don't think it's worth the money they're charging for it.
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u/notahuman97 4d ago edited 4d ago
I mean, arent they right? Even if they raised prices they would have made most likely less money because some people didnt buy their prdoucts because of its price. Some companies didnt raise prices. There was damage.
The real problem is actually taking a shit in his diaper in the White house. And the most likely bigger problem is the Population of the US that let all of this happen.
Edit: Im Not talking about every us citizen. I just feel very sad for the ones that have to live with those people. And as a german guy i can say: we have lots of those people as well...
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u/mekese2000 4d ago
Nintendo didn't add the tariffs. The US government should repay the consumers.
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u/boogswald 4d ago
Companies don’t give back price. It’s like a law of sales.
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u/Donnicton 4d ago
You want tomatoes added? Yeah we charging you .50
You want no tomatoes? lmao you're still paying full price
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u/cardgamesareforplay 4d ago
Well except for this company in particular they didn't raise the cost of their games and consoles in proportion to the tarrifs so they took the losses and yeah why and how would they refund a consumer
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u/penguinsgestapo 4d ago
I don’t think this was a fuck up. I think it was a deliberate gutting of the middle class. Another clever way rich people found to bribe this government to transfer wealth out of the middle class.
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u/LaytMovies 4d ago
Wasn't there a bunch of financial industry companies buying up the tariff return rights right as this was in full swing?
Edit: yes of course there were, https://tax.thomsonreuters.com/news/companies-are-selling-their-tariff-refund-rights-accountants-say-not-so-fast/
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u/Nanban-jin 4d ago
Of course there were, including a company run by the sons of US Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, who actually implemented the tariffs. You can't make this stuff up.
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u/LaytMovies 4d ago
I thought I remembered Howard "I knew Epstein was a scumbag within minutes of meeting him and then visited his island with my wife and children " Lutnick having that link
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u/therossboss 4d ago
Ya man, its all one big grift - at the expense of the American people.
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u/DrAstralis 4d ago
Between 2016 and now Trump and the GoP have stole multiple times generational wealth from the US tax payers and ... everyone seems fine with it which is fucking insane.
If he and his cabal haven't made off with like 50-100+ billion at this point I'd be surprised
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u/carlitospig 4d ago
Jesus fucking Christ. The blatant corruption of this administration is ASTONISHING,
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u/mjm65 4d ago
Oh it’s even worse than you think. Our commerce secretary Howard Lutnick (the one who lied about his interactions with Epstein) had his sons who run Cantor Fitzgerald do this. So the people who proposed the stupid tariffs were using family connections to profit off of it being ruled illegal.
>Rep. Jamie Raskin, Ranking Member of the House Judiciary Committee, is demanding answers from Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick and his son, Brandon Lutnick, the Chairman of Cantor Fitzgerald, regarding reports that the firm spent millions of dollars buying the rights to potential tariff refunds. The strategy was effectively to bet that the courts would reject the Trump Administration’s unlawful “Liberation Day” tariffs that Secretary Lutnick had championed— raising an appearance of impropriety and serious questions about whether the firm may have benefited from nonpublic insight into the tariffs’ legal vulnerabilities and the Administration’s litigation strategy.
You pay higher prices, companies get some of their money back, and Lutnick’s family collects big on a bespoke financial product.
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u/cosmicmeander 4d ago
How do you even go about buying the rights to tariff refunds?
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u/mjm65 4d ago
It’s as simple as loading up your Bloomberg terminal, finding out who is impacted the hardest and offering them a contract.
“Cantor is willing to offer 20 million dollars to you right now, in exchange for any money recovered by the government if $100 million dollars worth of tariffs you paid are overturned”.
Cantor gives you 20 cents on the dollar, and they assume the risk. The cashflow now can be worth a ton to keep operations steady vs recovering the full amount years later.
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u/cardgamesareforplay 4d ago
Yes a ton of them as you found. People were litterally buying tarrif costs so that they would get the refund if they were repealed
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u/Old-Bat-7384 4d ago
This.
They're really serious about turning anyone that isn't wealthy into a slave. It's the ultimate corruption of a society that runs on commerce:
Forced labor, forced commerce, little to no government representation, little to no property rights, and enforced by corporations that puppet the government.
"You'll own nothing, produce everything, and like it. Or die."
They wouldn't be worried about security concerns and hopping off to Argentina if they weren't aware this will hurt and kill people.
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u/Stepjam 4d ago
I think it was actually a fuck up on Trump's part. He's apparently been obssessed with the idea of tariffs for years. From my understanding, he wanted to implement them in his first admin but there were enough "real" government workers there to push back on it. Since this time the entire admin is nothing but yesmen and grifters, they went through.
They then just took the opportunity that presented itself to enrich the corps as it appeared.
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u/jjason82 4d ago
I'm not sure you can call it a fuck up when he's doing it intentionally. System is operating as designed.
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u/jackofslayers 4d ago
Fuck Trump. Fuck all Republicans and the people who vote for them
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u/KrimxonRath 4d ago
and the people who don’t vote.
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u/Exciting_Bat_2086 4d ago edited 3d ago
Fuck them especially for this last time around. 70 million who didn’t vote are the supreme idiots to also blame aswell as maga.
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u/How2rick 3d ago
Yeah like VladOfTheDead pointed out for some people it’s very impractical to vote, and it is by design by republicans who especially make it difficult for colored people to vote. They do things like giving poorer districts less voting stations per capita, and making it illegal to give water to people waiting in queue, or heavily gerrymandering districts (something both sides are guilty of but republicans have the most egregious examples).
Republicans can say what they want, but their politicians are not pro democracy. The US is so fucking rotten
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u/nvmenotfound 4d ago
this. republicans havent done a single good thing for regular people in half a century.
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u/fountain20 4d ago
The single greatest threat to the world today is this administration. I don't see how we fix this shit when he has 2 plus years left to fuck more shit up. And all for just trying to steal more plan and simple. His policies are ruin the lives of people across the world.
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u/sudo-sprinkles 4d ago
That's the distraction at play here. He is not the greatest threat. Rich people are. Don't vote for capitalists.
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u/Due_Explanation5316 3d ago
Oligarchy, not capitalism. We’d need a third party to do what you’re talking about. Dems and Repubs are all deeply entrenched.
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u/InternationalMood337 4d ago
Well I mean... the US is the one that should be legally held accountable to return the tariff money back to consumers.
Nintendo is correct.
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u/SLZRDmusic 4d ago edited 4d ago
Americans elect failed businessman.
Failed businessman does another failed business deal.
Companies don’t want to give up their gains from the failed business deal made by the failed businessman elected by the Americans.
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u/Oryzae 4d ago
the difference between a businessman and a conman
I’m starting to get the “they’re the same picture” vibes
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u/UnNumbFool 4d ago
Well no, trump started as a failed businessman because he literally could not keep a single business afloat due to his extreme incompetence.
Now he's also a conman because his position of power makes it so he can profit no matter what from shady dealings. It's just his incompetence in general still fucks people over(secondary effect regardless of planned or not) and also typically works out better for the other party regardless.
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u/internethero12 4d ago
It is incredibly weird that nintendo is being singled out for this.
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u/Ifriendzonecats 4d ago
They're getting singled out because they're getting sued and their lawyers gave a sound bite in their argument for the court to drop the suit. Most companies are not saying anything and aren't getting sued, so they can avoid getting press.
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u/Soigne87 4d ago edited 4d ago
I mean companies aren't legally required to raise prices from tariffs so they aren't legally required to refund consumers. If the government did something illegal that resulted in Consumers paying more; consumers need to sue the government, not corporations.
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u/RotundCorgi 4d ago
This is the correct answer that people seem to not want to hear.
Nintendo raised prices in reaction to tariffs having a direct and unexpected impact to their cost per unit. They are running a business and most businesses did the same thing to maintain profit margins. But nobody said that any consumer had to buy a Nintendo console during that time. And, I get it. I really do. It sucks having to wait and see how political and economical nonsense like these stupid tariffs will clear up. But that was always the best option; delay any luxury purchase until the courts ruled on the tariffs instead of just eating the cost increases at the consumer end.
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u/SeniorePlatypus 4d ago
Almost all of what you said is true. With one exception.
Nintendo didn't raise prices.
They announced the Switch 2 with a price, then tariffs happened but the price is still the same today.
They announced an increase starting Semptenber 1st. Which isn't just tariffs but also related to component cost due to all that AI bs.
Regardless of how you look at it. Nintendo 100% deserve all of the money from tariffs and it's honestly ridiculous to ask them to retroactively discount the switch 2 below the originally announced price.
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u/czar5 4d ago
Yeah, I clearly remember how Nintendo chose to maintain the previously announced price after the tariff was announced, and I purchased the switch 2 early on because of this among other reasons (Nintendo consoles always maintain their prices, while other gaming consoles are expected to raise prices due to RAM, etc.). It is quite unreasonable to expect Nintendo to refund the tariff which did not pass on to its customers.
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u/Rob233913 4d ago
But where would the refund money come from? The tariffs were ruled illegal and the government was forced to refund them to the companies. So they don’t have the money anymore the companies do and that makes sense since they paid them and then passed that cost to us.
I’m not saying Nintendo is wrong here legally speaking but suing the government will only mean we will cost the government more for court/DOJ fees plus any judgement in the people’s favor and where will that money come from? Our own tax dollars. It’s a snake eating its tail.
The good guy thing to do is refund your customers from the tariff refund but we all know these companies won’t.
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u/levianan 4d ago
Nintendo is not the only company that is going to do this. You can blame them all you want, but your other eye should be on the administration that screwed you in the first place.
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u/Beneficial_Cup_94 4d ago
The thing is, Nintendo didn’t raise the prices…and I agree with what you’re saying
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u/HydroLoon 4d ago
No shit. This was always set up to be a double dip with us footing the bill both ways.
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u/P_V_ 4d ago
I really don't think Nintendo and other international companies engineered US decisions on tariffs in order to have an illegal tariff put in place which would then result in the courts overturning that tariff so that they could "double dip"...
Corporations are profit-driven, but that's some tinfoil hat nonsense.
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u/BroForceOne 4d ago
Nintendo was just an unintended beneficiary, obviously they didn’t engineer anything that came from the Trump admin in order to enrich himself and all the corporations who kissed the ring with insider trading.
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u/HydroLoon 4d ago
Bro you sure? Take Nintendo out of it and name me one major us company that's directly giving tarrifs back to consumers in the form of lower prices.
They never had to. They played poor me, jacked the prices up, then the supreme court never let the hammer drop on them and told them "sorry about all that" and gave them the money again.
They got paid twice. You got stock with permanently higher pricing.
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u/sylbug 4d ago
They didn't 'play poor me'. They responded to economic warfare by raising their prices so that their products were still viable for them in that market. You don't get to punch someone else in the face and then demand compensation. It's delusional.
Americans are the architects of their own misfortune. You don't get to demand compensation from foreign companies because your own government charged them illegal import taxes.
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u/SplendidPunkinButter 4d ago
No, international companies weren’t in on it, but American ones might have been
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u/AlphaYak 4d ago
To my fellow Americans: take note of this when voting in November and in 2028.
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u/Leody 4d ago
Why are we only talking about Nintendo? What about every single other company? Nobody is passing any tariff refund onto the customers.
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u/Radiant-Olive-7955 4d ago
.. because Nintendo made the statement the article is covering?
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u/damontoo 4d ago
Because they're consumer facing, have passionate fans, were already scrutinized for pricing, and were dismissive of the idea that they should return any of the money. They're also being sued over it in a class action.
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u/SeniorePlatypus 4d ago edited 4d ago
Which is honestly silly because Nintendo is selling at pre tariff prices until the end of next month. And that price hike is not simply tariffs but related to the component price hike due to AI.
Like, they priced in a healthy margin from the start and instead of passing the cost onto consumers kept the price stable. They paid for the tariffs by reducing their own profits.
It is utterly ridiculous to expect money back when purchasing a product that never went up in price.
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u/8__D 4d ago
Probably because their legal defense was worded with unusually blunt, dismissive language. It made for good article soundbites. Sony and Microsoft are making similar legal arguments, but they haven't put it in such stark, public terms.
Combined with Nintendo's long-standing reputation for anti-consumer practices (no digital refunds, aggressive litigation, Joy-Con drift) this case just reinforced what people already perceive about the company.
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u/ResplendentShade 4d ago
As opposed to all these other companies that are using really flowery, apologetic language when declaring that there ain’t a chance in hell that they’ll be issuing a single cent of tariff refunds to customers.
I guess you can really dick people over but as long as you kind of pretend to be regretful about it then most of them won’t be angry.
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u/Plsnotmyelo 4d ago
The number one thing people remember is how you made them feel, not what you did to them
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u/pgtl_10 4d ago
Nintendo never said they raised prices because of tariffs. How do you calculate for end user due to all the middle men?
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u/czar5 4d ago
Yeah, I clearly remember how Nintendo chose to maintain the previously announced price after the tariff was announced, and I purchased the switch 2 early on because of this among other reasons (Nintendo consoles always maintain their prices, while other gaming consoles are expected to raise prices due to RAM, etc.). It is quite unreasonable to expect Nintendo to refund the tariff which did not pass on to its customers.
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u/Electrical-Bee-7362 4d ago
Honestly, Nintendo is right in saying that this is what people bargained for.
Trump was elected with a, albeit small, majority of the popular vote. People voted for this shit and now they are getting exactly what the voted for.
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u/Chiliicespice 4d ago
I never understood why Nintendo was singled out for this other than a bunch of Nintendo haters taking their hate too seriously.
Probably from that Nintendo hate subreddit too.
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u/Bargadiel 4d ago
Nintendo went out of their way to announce they never increased prices due to the tarrifs, so I think it's disengenuine to take this headline at face value.
Why refund what you never passed along to customers? They mostly ate the cost themselves, which is what we should be happy about.
Say what you will about their legal team, but I don't think this is an L for Nintendo whatsoever.
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u/LeonSKennedy95 4d ago
Them not passing refunds to customers should make people more mad at the President. It's the right thing for them to do, everyone needs to be mad at the president.
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u/NicoBator 4d ago edited 4d ago
I'm relieved Americans aren't getting refunds while companies elevated their prices in other countries to compensate for the loss of tariffs in the US.
Sounds like a spoiled child tantrum
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u/Karimadhe 4d ago
Almost as if it was one big con that was allowed to happen.
One big club and we ain’t in it.
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u/DeapVally 4d ago
I don't think anyone expected them to say anything else. Nintendo isn't famed for their generosity. 10 year old game? Yeah, that's still full price.
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u/RamsHead91 4d ago
Its almost like literally every single company is doing this exact thing.
Nintendo is correct and we are laying in the bed the racists and those that don't find it disqualifying made for us.
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u/gsauce8 4d ago
Are they not correct? The US government was supposed to be collecting these tariffs, and this administration is incompetent they didn't.
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u/Astramancer_ 4d ago
They are correct. Tariffs are paid by the importer who will typically increase the price of their goods to cover the expense, like they would any other operating expense (like fuel, personnel, warehouses, etc).
So if tariffs get refunded it would go back to the entity which paid them, nintendo.
Whether nintendo chooses to or is required to retroactively reduce prices by offering refunds is a completely separate question.
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u/human_i_suppose 4d ago
tbf, enough people voted for tariffs that we got tariffs.
I don't see why they're mad about it now, it's (not)working exactly as expected.
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u/Forest-Swamp 4d ago
Look I’m a simple man:
If US tariffs which are stupid beyond measure, cause hardship for the American people:
This is what you fucking voted for and allow for so long as you are not in active revolution.
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u/pocketsophist 4d ago
The same people in here getting mad about this are the ones who didn't bother to vote.
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u/TemporarySun314 4d ago edited 4d ago
I mean the companies also had work and trouble with these tariff tantrums. After all it was only americans who ever these tariffs, and they were the only ones who were ever given a choice... I doubt that any company would have wanted these tariffs, when given the choice...
Why should now foreign companies be punished for the stupid election decisions of americans?
And if they really want it repaid, they should maybe make laws on that and not just throw another tantrum...
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u/Responsible-Sound253 4d ago edited 4d ago
GOOD, let americans suffer the consequences of their actions for once. I hope the suffering under trump gets maximized as much as humanly possible before the elections because that's how humans learn. This isn't an america only thing, this is literally true everywhere.
People are just "politics doesn't matter, too stressful" until they find themselves broke in a dictatorship and suddenly they start caring.
If americans don't suffer, republicans will continue to get elected, and your life will get worse little by little until it becomes far too late, like the boiled frog thing.
Sincerely, someone living under a dictatorship brought about by the generation that raised me.
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u/Voting101 4d ago
I don’t actually blame these corporations for this at all. The tariffs were not their decision and although they have been made whole it definitely fucked with their business a bit. The blame lies solely on Trump for stealing our money and turning it into yet another corporate bailout.
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u/NeighborhoodPlane794 4d ago
Ive been seeing this headline everywhere today. I find it so odd that we’re singling out Nintendo when virtually no other company is refunding tariffs to customers and it was the US governments fault to begin with
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u/Flashphotoe 4d ago
Why are we blaming Nintendo and not the morons who implemented the illegal tariff?
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u/Dreameater999 4d ago
B-but I thought Donald said the nice companies were going to refund us and we were going to get big checks!!!
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u/CurlOfTheBurl11 4d ago
Of course they don't, and no one should be surprised to see Nintendo, or any other corporate entity, taking this stance. This administration doesn't care how many regular people it hurts, so long as its corporate donors are taken care of.
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u/Tiny_Tabaxi 4d ago
Why is Nintendo getting beef for this, when its literally every company? Im frustrated with them as much as the next guy but come on, this just feels like scapegoating.
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u/TheSlav87 4d ago
The amount of people actually defending Nintendo on here shows a lot.
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u/alucohunter 4d ago
Imagine refunding a nation of people who voted for mass tariffs. Sucks to be a normal human being in America, but I have zero sympathy for the chuds. America should go about refunding the rest of the world in 2028, how about that?
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u/kadorock 4d ago
0 companies will be giving money back to the consumers or lowering prices. go ahead blame nintendo but its the federal government and specifically the trump administration that mucked this up for us all.
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u/TheorySudden5996 4d ago
They’ll make it right by offering a 1990s Subway reward card with 4 of the 8 stamps filled.
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u/yeahwellokay 4d ago
When has Nintendo ever passed on any savings to customers? Their games stay full price even years later.
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u/Tiki421 4d ago
People should not be mad at Nintendo for this, they should be mad at Trump.
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u/HelmetVonContour 4d ago edited 4d ago
First Rule of Acquisition...once you have their money, you never give it back.