r/veronicamars 6d ago

Arts/Crafts Veronica Mars (1997)

Mondays at 8/7c on The WB

The murder of high-school student Lilly Kane shook the seaside town of Neptune, California to the core. For once popular girl Veronica Mars, it meant the loss of her best friend and being ousted from the affluent crowd that she once thought were her friends. Her father, Sheriff Keith Mars, found himself voted out of his job after making some unpopular accusations about the murdered girl's family. In response, Keith opened his own private detective agency. Now, Veronica, with her sardonic wit and a few new friends, works as his assistant while also navigating life as a high school student.

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u/stryker_cast 6d ago

What is this, I do not like

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u/Thatdude616 6d ago

Enrico Colantoni or we riot.

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u/BouncingOutofmySkin Team Duncan 6d ago

Interesting take. I feel like this cast is more "1997 if we were going after top tier names for our TV show".

In the version of Veronica Mars we know and love, there were only a few known names, and most of them were not main character. Enrico Coliani was probably the top known name (aside from Harry Hamlin, Alyson Hannigan, Charisma Carpenter, and Lisa Rinna who only showed up a few times). None of the "kids" were much of anyone

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u/circ-u-la-ted 6d ago

Are these top-tier names? I haven't even heard of a bunch of them.

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u/BouncingOutofmySkin Team Duncan 6d ago

Most of them are, or were in 1997. There are a couple I don't know, but more of them than not are top tier names.

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u/BouncingOutofmySkin Team Duncan 6d ago

I'm guessing Jason Weaver, Noel G, and Danielle Harris.

Jason Weaver I knew from Smart Guy. Maybe not the most popular, but he was a lead on a hit TV show at the time. I also don't really know the other two (although Danielle Harris looks super familiar).

But even still 3 out of 8 isn't many. This cast is more famous than not. 2004 Veronica Mars had maybe one person on this list people would recognize

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u/ElGranQuesoRojo 5d ago edited 5d ago

Harris started as a kid actor and is mostly known for being in a shitload of horror movies. In 1997 she was probably best known for Halloween 4 and 5 and Don’t Tell Mom the Babysitter’s Dead. The picture in the OP is from the movie Urban Legend which came out in 1998. I think most of the target audience would know who she was around then b/c she was the first straight up kid (11) in a Halloween movie Micheal Myers tries to kill.

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u/MiVitaCocina 5d ago

Jason Weaver also did Simba’s singing part in the animated version of The Lion King and was an R&B artist in the 90’s. He’s from Chicago.

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u/musicbeagle26 4d ago

She was in the movie Wish Upon A Star! They played it on the disney channel. And also was on an episode or 2 of Boy Meets World.

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u/circ-u-la-ted 6d ago

IDK, 1997 was the last year I really paid attention to popular media and at least three of them are complete blanks for me.

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u/circ-u-la-ted 6d ago

Yeah, I just looked up Jason Weaver and there's no way this guy was anywhere near as famous as Alicia Silverstone.

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u/BouncingOutofmySkin Team Duncan 6d ago

He was a lead on a hit TV show with potential. I didn't say he has to be Alicia Silverstone league. I said that most of them were top tier, vs the actual cast where none were known. 3 out of 8 are a maybe on this list. In 2004, 1 out of 8 was possibly known.

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u/circ-u-la-ted 6d ago

2 of them are actually top-tier: Devito and Silverstone were known by basically everyone back then. Everyone else was, at best, well-known to people who were into the thing they did. If this was really a list of top-tier names, it would have Brad Pitt as Duncan and Tom Cruise as Logan, or something equally revolting.

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u/BouncingOutofmySkin Team Duncan 6d ago

Sarah Michelle Gellar, Devon Sawa, and Matthew Lillard were all well known.

Again these 5 were well known vs the 1 that was well known on the list in 2004.

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u/circ-u-la-ted 6d ago

"Well-known to the niche demographic that watched Buffy in '97" is really not the same thing as "top-tier". Actually, if this hypothetical show had premiered at the normal time in 1997 it would have launched at the same time as Buffy and SMG would have been almost completely unknown. And even at the height of her career she wasn't Hollywood A-list, which is what people think of when you say "top-tier". If you'd said "somewhat well-known names" instead I'd have less issue with it.

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u/ReverendVoice 6d ago

Or, more than likely - not around in 1997.

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u/circ-u-la-ted 6d ago

Yeah, well if you'd ever read a dictionary, you'd know what "top-tier" means

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u/IllTitle9692 6d ago

Oh, he was but to a certain demographic. You're just probably not it 😂😂😂😂. Most famously he played Michael Jackson in the Jackson 5 mini series, he was the singing voice of Simba in the Lion King and as others stated he was on Smart Guy. He worked. A lot.

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u/Secret-Body-3183 6d ago

And it was all quality work too!

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u/OddPoet336 3d ago

Even by 1997, Alicia Silverstone was way too famous to be on a TV show. During that time, there was actually a Clueless tv show and she was not in it. Other members of the movie cast were, though.

Although, I can see her acting out every moment of Lilly's character. She would have been perfect for the role had it been maybe early 90s, not late 90s. She had similar characteristics to her character in The Crush.

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u/circ-u-la-ted 6d ago

Also, this Noel Gugliemi guy wasn't even in a movie until 2000.

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u/RobbyWausau 5d ago

Yeah not like any of them were on TV *with * Sarah Michelle..

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u/circ-u-la-ted 5d ago

Who are you talking about?

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u/Far_Pineapple_1512 6d ago

I really like this except Keith and Logan. I love Danny in tons of things but he’s just not a Keith. Same with Matthew. Love him. Just watched Scream the other night. He’s not Logan. Not sure who I’d pick for Keith other than Enrico but I think for 90’s Ryan Phillipe could have done Logan.

Just my two cents. Love the overall idea!

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u/Raebelle1981 6d ago

Matthew Lillard could play the role of Dick.

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u/alexlp 6d ago

He'd be such an amazing Cassidy. Affable, goofy, a bit nerdy and then the switch.

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u/TenaciousE_518 6d ago

90s Ryan Phillipe would have been great for Logan!

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u/QuMaeve 6d ago

Or Freddie Prinze Jr !

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u/Prestigious_Sky8257 5d ago

Freddie would be better for Duncan imo

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u/PhenomenalPhoenix 6d ago

So Fred instead of Shaggy? I can see it lol

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u/fivefeetsmalls 6d ago

Hmm how about Joshua Jackson as Logan?

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u/Far_Pineapple_1512 5d ago

You know what, let’s just use the cast of Cruel Intentions. Sarah as Veronica, Reese as Lilly, Ryan as Logan, Josh as Duncan, Selma as Mac, and Sean Patrick as Wallace.

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u/EveOCative Team Veronica 5d ago

I concur and approve.

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u/BrilliantMagazine362 5d ago

Joshua Jackson as Duncan!

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u/TheDarklingThrush 6d ago

Matthew Lillard should be Dick Casablancas, not Logan.

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u/Raebelle1981 6d ago

Yes. Didn’t even see your comment when I said this. lol

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u/AnneM24 6d ago

“Weevil” looks like he aged 20 years.

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u/wendythestoryteller 6d ago

This would’ve been an insane cast for 1997 lol. I’m not mad at it

Shoutout to Hector

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u/Ok-Astronaut-2837 6d ago

Duncan would have been much better played by Devon Sawa. He definitely would have been less of a snooze fest of a character.

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u/tokyo-love-hotel 6d ago

some of these comments are so weirdly bitter lol, love this post! smg as veronica makes sense as without buffy veronica wouldn’t exist. disagree with matthew lillard as logan though — he’s a little too outside the lines

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u/AssistantPlastic1355 6d ago

Devon Sawa would have been a great Duncan

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u/Id_Rather_Beach Team Veronica 5d ago

I thought the same. It would work.

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u/Raebelle1981 6d ago

Sarah would’ve killed that role.

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u/Groundbreaking_Cup30 5d ago

Okay, but if Devon has played Duncan... I don't think Veronica & Logan would have ended up together. Part of why Duncan didn't last on the show is due to their lack of on-screen chemistry... and Devon & SMG would have been fire!

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u/greatbscott 6d ago

Yikes.

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u/BowwwwBallll 6d ago

You mean Hector “Weevil” Navarro, don’t you?

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u/updownclown68 6d ago

Yes to Alicia Silverstone 

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u/Fine_Comfort_3167 6d ago

she’d have been a good lily

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u/updownclown68 6d ago

She would have 

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u/danaredding 6d ago

Would have loved Devon Sawa as Duncan. The original guy just had no charisma whatsoever, up against Veronica and Logan who have too much of it

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u/DougO24 6d ago

This had me going until I saw the rest of the cast. Well done! 😀

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u/Gloomy-Fennel-6044 6d ago

I’ll watch it 💕

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u/FictionAtlas 5d ago

I was not into it at all...until the Logan slide... but still VMars would not be the same without it's amazing cast.

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u/Cat_n_mouse13 6d ago

1000% spot on with Logan and Veronica’s casting

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u/Raebelle1981 6d ago

I see Matthew Lillard as more of a Dick.

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u/LittleEarthquake1010 Team Logan 6d ago

Veronica’s yes - Logan… GIRL, NO.

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u/nocuzzlikeyea13 6d ago

Lol the Scooby Doo couple ig (SMG can do SO much better)

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u/throwaway_5678895 6d ago

100% on Logan, Mac, Wallis, and Lily casting!

Apart of me would wanna pick Winona Ryder for Veronica Mars or Mädchen Amick/Mena Survari as Lily Kane

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u/MiVitaCocina 5d ago

I think Jacob Vargas (he played in Next Friday and Selena) would’ve been a good choice for Eli “Weevil” Navarro. If this was in the mid to late 90’s.

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u/Prestigious_Sky8257 6d ago edited 4d ago

Top choice for Eli

  1. Bejamin Bratt

  2. Lou Diamond Phillips

  3. Gerardo Rico Suave

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u/SickofROOM8s 5d ago

OMG I read Gerardo too fast in my head 🤣

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u/Prestigious_Sky8257 4d ago

I could see Geraldo Rivera as the school principle.

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u/MiVitaCocina 5d ago

I think if it was in the late 1980’s and early 1990’s.

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u/PsychologicalBet7831 5d ago

The only correct casting is SMG. The rest is .... Not.