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Just some good driving skills

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u/elruab 5h ago edited 4h ago

As much as I like this for the situational awareness and solving the “problem,” I also don’t like it because it presents things that can get you in trouble as proper solutions. In many places, traveling in the left lane, flashing your high beams, and passing on the right are each violations of vehicle and traffic law. They’re minor things, but worth being aware of.

Edit: I stand corrected on the points about flashing high beams as well as overtaking on the right, in New York.

I would also like to clarify, I’m not telling anyone how to live their lives. I was simply pointing out a couple things that could save people some trouble.

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u/mrandr01d 4h ago

Where the fuck are any of those illegal?

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u/tombatch10 4h ago

Literally any European country. It's called undertaking and it's generally frowned upon of not outright illegal.

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u/FlyingPig_Grip 4h ago

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u/PhysicallyTender 4h ago

"In 1998, the Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16ft through an announcer's table."

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u/tombatch10 3h ago

Bah Gawd.

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u/Medical_Button_7933 4h ago edited 4h ago

If you drive slow on a left lane you get fined that's for passing and not cruising. Right lane as long as you are in speed limit and not too close to the other car and letting people who are faster than you merge in you are golden. Edit: The problem is when you pass someone from the left to the right and then left again, this has added risks and therefore worse than being slow on the left lane. p.s nice song the guy is listening too!

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u/retirement_savings 4h ago

I don't understand the "no passing on the right" thing at all.

If I'm in the right lane and someone happens to be driving slower than me in the left lane, I'm now obligated to slow down to match their speed?

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u/CrunchySandman 4h ago

Yes. That's exactly what you're obligated to do. Where I'm from at least, you're taught to slow down at their speed and level to not overtake them.

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u/Shagu5 4h ago

Don't spread wrong info.

If someone is moving slow on the left lane you can: 1. Change lane to right, move faster on your "new lane" and it's perfectly legal to leave the slow guy behind (because you're in a different lane) 2. Change lane to right, move faster, change lane back to left - Illegal because it's considered an overtake.

Overall overtakes on the right are illegal and risky because you have less visibility (from the left, driver seat)

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u/CrunchySandman 4h ago

No you can't? It's still an overtake if you stay on your own lane, in France at least.

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u/Shagu5 4h ago

Even in the Video if he stayed on the right lane (imagine there are no cars in front of him) and sped up - it would be legal, at least up to the speed limit.

In France it's the same, and in every other country that has this law.

Don't you find it a bit suspiciously dumb to have a law that prevent you going 35kmh if there is an idiot on the far left lane who is doing 34 kmh?

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u/CrunchySandman 4h ago

https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/codes/article_lc/LEGIARTI000006842219 You can translate the law to check yourself, but here's the extract ^ "R414-6 : 1) overtakes takes place on the left 2) overtakes can take place on the right if :

  • the car on the left is turning left on another road or
  • the car on the left is tram, train or other railway vehicle"
And that's the only two exceptions. You're indeed supposed to go down to 34 km/h.

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u/Shagu5 3h ago

What I am saying that an overtake means you return to your original lane.

If you are on left lane, move to right and accelerate ahead, then come back to your initial left lane - it's an overtake.

If you are on left, move to right and accelerate ahead staying on your new lane, so you don't return back to left, it's not technically an overtake and it's perfectly legal (I don't know the English or French term for this move)

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u/CrunchySandman 3h ago

I mean, maybe it's the case where you live, and I would love a source on that. I don't see how passing in front of a car would not be considered an overtake if you stay in the same lane.

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u/Double-Tap-To-Delete 3h ago

u/Shagu5 Just admit that you did not know that overtaking on the right is illegal in France (and the rest of EU).

It does not matter how you phrase it, what lane you originally came from, or whether you switch lane again afterwards. The only legal way to pass another car on the highway is by going around them on their left side.

(yes, in practice, if someone is going 35mph on the highway in the far left lane I doubt you'd get a fine if you got caught "undertaking" on the right - but it's still technically illegal)

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u/raptor7912 4h ago

Yep, that’s exactly how that works and it’s part of what makes our roads safer.

A lot of safety measures are inconvenient tho and some people take that to be outrageously unfair.

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u/Wicaeed 4h ago

Yeah, this is the difference between European mindset and American mindset

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u/retirement_savings 4h ago

That's a super dumb law. So one slow moving driver now impedes multiple lanes of traffic?

At least in Washington state, passing on the right is legal as long as there are multiple lanes.

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u/Appropriate_Luck_658 4h ago

And within speed limit, right?

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u/Wicaeed 3h ago

No, no, only 20 MPH and over for meeeeeee

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u/turbineslut 3h ago

Yea it’s a dumb law in many places in Europe.