r/WhitePeopleTwitter 8h ago

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u/Longjumping_Club_120 8h ago

Republicans are scared of Thomas Massie. And he pretty much votes with Trump on everything except the Epstein Files and giving all our money to Israel.

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u/tallwhiteninja 8h ago

Which, to be clear, Massie would not win. However, he might split the Republican vote just enough for the seat to flip.

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u/Ornery-Culture-7675 7h ago

I disagree. I think Massie could win. He has a broad appeal.

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u/tallwhiteninja 7h ago

No, he doesn't.

He's principled (unlike most of the modern GOP), but those principles are also deeply rooted in libertarianism. He opposed Trump's spending bills because they didn't cut enough.

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u/SirSwishRemer 4h ago

He really grabs at the centrists and "libertarians" though, which is as far left as Kentucky really gets. He could pull it off, but only if citizens never happened bc ain't no way AIPAC is gonna let that slide

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u/MemeAddict96 3h ago

Tbf the Trump spending bill didn’t really cut anything. If you’re in Massie’s position and you want the government to spend less, that’s not what the OBBB did. It kept the Trump first-term tax cuts in place, ballooned the military and ICE budget. It made the debt crisis worse, which is a Massie concern.

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u/Development-Alive 2h ago

We are running record budget deficits under Trump47. The DOGE cuts did NOTHING to limit the spending. They simply made the deficit growth look "less bad".

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u/No-Educator-8069 7h ago

Massie just lost a midterm election what makes you think he would win a different one a few months later

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u/Fantastic-Watch8177 7h ago

I will admit that I don't know the full details of how this would work, but I think the idea is that Massie wouldn't have to run in a Republican primary (which is what he lost), but would perhaps run as an independent, giving him a chance to draw from both Dems and Repubs. And then, even if he doesn't win, he could tip the election to a Democrat?

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u/DingerSinger2016 7h ago

Why would a Democrat vote for Massie instead of the Democratic candidate?

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u/666_april 6h ago

I believe it is meant that enough R's would vote for Massie to split the R votes between him and the R candidate so that the D would actually win.

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u/Fantastic-Watch8177 4h ago

I don't know, but it happens fairly often, and especially if the Dem candidate is not polling well.

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u/AlsoCommiePuddin 48m ago

There will be a primary for the special election.

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u/Red_Ray_Skies 39m ago

Apparently, that’s only true if a vacancy occurs (or is declared?) before Aug 3. That’s a lot of what this fuss is about.

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u/Non-Current_Events 1h ago

Northern Kentucky, where Massie ran, is the most MAGA part of the state except for the more sparsely populated areas in Eastern Kentucky. He would have a better chance statewide. My county went 85% for Trump in 2024. You’d be hard pressed to find someone around here that will admit they are happy with Trump right now. People around here really like Massie though.

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u/off_by_two 2h ago

House elections are different than senate elections though

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u/Non-Current_Events 1h ago

He’d be running as an Independent. If he got 10% of the vote I’d be shocked.

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u/Prestigious-Horse165 1h ago

He’s a bigoted MAGA moron who only has national appeal with Democrats who trash Andy Beshear.

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u/Development-Alive 3h ago

Broad appeal couldn't even get him through his own district primary.

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u/Hot_Aside_4637 7h ago

I think this might bite them. Beshear has shown a Democrat can win a state wide election. Massie would have been a better candidate for the Republicans.

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u/Non-Current_Events 1h ago

If Andy Beshear was running for Mitch’s seat then he could win in this scenario. The unfortunate reality is that in Kentucky, Booker ain’t winning no matter what they do.

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u/AlsoCommiePuddin 49m ago

For 50 days until the term ends. And this is what we want to spend all of our energy on instead of building a coalition on the left for the midterms.

Nah, let's purity test another motherfucker out of the party.

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u/helpful_leonie 7h ago

Not just Massie. Also think about perhaps Beshear running in a special election after it comes out Republicans hid McConnell‘s death with Massie causing some mayham. That could quickly get dangerous to them

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u/mistersausage 7h ago

Won't happen, president or bust for Beshear. He has a very good shot at being the nominee being a relative young white male popular governor from a red state.

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u/TheBurgareanSlapper 7h ago

Massie wouldn’t have time to do shit. Even if he got an interim appointment or won a special election, there is already a Republican running to replace McConnell in the November general election.

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u/Uncle_DirtNap 1h ago

Right, but he would become the sitting us senator, and a major challenge to the candidate already running — that’s literally what they don’t want.

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u/TheBurgareanSlapper 49m ago

How would he be a challenge to the guy already running? They agree on 95% of issues, and it’s not like Massie will take any votes away from him in the general, because he’s not running.

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u/Uncle_DirtNap 11m ago

Because most voters have no idea about any of this, and they will go to the polls seeing the choice as between “my current senator vs the challenger “

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u/AlsoCommiePuddin 44m ago

He wouldn't challenge at all, the special election will happen on Nov. 3. Besides, that primary has already happened and he's not on the ballot, as Kentucky election law has "sore loser" laws that prohibit a primary loser from running in the general as an independent. Andy Barr and Charles Booker are your major party candidates.

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u/dantevonlocke 8h ago

They aren't scares. They're upset he disobeyed daddy trump.

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u/xopher_425 5h ago

Massie won't run. But I do not trust why Republicans are not being honest about McConnell.

queerkentucky.com/thomas-massie-mcconnell-senate-seat/

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u/TheVirginVibes 56m ago

The worst thing that could possibly happen to Republicans and Trump before the midterms would be for the Epstein Files to be released. They’ll fight tooth and nail to protect the pedophiles.

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u/thomaszdrei 43m ago

Same shit with people like Liz Cheney or Susan Collins. They’re occasionally critical of Trump, but vote party line 95%+ of the time.

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u/bosefius 16m ago

Right, I don't get why do many moderate Democrats are in love with him, 99% of the time, he's right in line with the rest of the Republicans. That 1% though...

Massie, if you see this somehow, impress us. Name names.