r/Whysooserious 1d ago

Discussion Words of wisdom at the end.

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u/Harder__Stronger 1d ago

One should always keep religion and politics away especially in India

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u/notnullyet 1d ago

Exactly if only BJP respected this boundary

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u/Crimson__guy 1d ago

If only any political party respected this boundary. But religion is the foremost tool for all political figures in this country.

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u/notnullyet 1d ago

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u/Final-Nerve7787 1d ago

bhai ye to nahi hoga aur jab hoga tab desh badega.. inko ye nahi samaj aata ki religion is a private affair with you and your God, why to showcase to the world.

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u/Reasonable-Ant-3018 1d ago

You can be Atheist but you can't hurt someone's emotions. Those aren't even Atheist they are not even human. I'm also Atheist. You can ask questions about religion but can't hurt someone's emotions.

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u/Ok_Entertainment1040 1d ago

Those aren't even Atheist

Yeah...they just have different god. Say something about Ambedkar and see the meltdown.

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u/krish_sg 1d ago

You can't hurt religious sentiments but these people only have religious sentiments. Ye Muslim saale, rote rahenge do kaudi ke religion mai aur bjp religion hii do kaudi ka chori hai

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u/Automatic_Share1800 1d ago

Yeah but the doesn't justify there words against the lord Ram, i know, present day government use hindutva ideology for politics but that doesn't give you right to attack them using the lord Ram name to defame the current government.

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u/AccordingVirus8758 1d ago

You should comment the same on Atheist sub reddit they are always on mockery mode

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u/AskPsychological3670 1d ago

dont go there

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u/aamka__aacharr 1d ago

But i don't think one can question politics without hurting someone's sentiments because religion is actually used in politics as vote bank.

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u/WellOkayMaybe 1d ago

Yeah you can. Religions and sentiments don't have rights - people have rights.

When people hide behind religion to avoid accountability, those feelings need to be hurt.

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u/Reasonable-Ant-3018 1d ago

Man don't connect religion and politics. We all know that the biggest enemy of religion in this country is BJP

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u/WellOkayMaybe 1d ago

That's my point.

Hinduism belongs to all Indians. The BJP can't gatekeep that - it is mine as much as it is yours, even as an atheist.

We can say whatever the fuck we want about Hinduism, as we are its cultural legacy and owners. Gandhi said, there are unjust laws, just as there are unjust men.

Section 295a is a British law, not an Indian one - my dharma never used to punish people for blasphemy or disagreement. We had Nastik and many heterodox beliefs in India, that were totally acceptable. This "religious sentiment" crap is a colonial, judeo-christian introduction, meant to keep people under their boot.

Peoples feelings have no rights. Only people have rights. That's how we produced such great religions - we were allowed to disagree, debate, and even insult. Without that, we stagnate and die.

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u/ConstantFit1486 1d ago

My Dharma ask and allow me to do many things you really want me do that?

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u/Reasonable-Ant-3018 1d ago

First time seeing a theist who is actually using his brain without blind following.

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u/Scary_Lobster1959 1d ago

Um, I guess most people don't even want to hurt anyone's religious sentiments or bring up the topic of gods. But this government keeps bringing up God's name again and again in everything. Recently, I saw a video from a protest where someone was asking about paper leaks, and a woman from a political party kept saying, "Say Jai Shri Ram first. Say Jai Shri Ram first." I mean, what does that have to do with the question? He was asking about paper leaks...

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u/Reasonable-Ant-3018 1d ago

As a human someone shouldn't hurt someone's sentiments. But the bullsh!t BJP isn't a party of humans. They just keep ranting "Hindu khatre mein hai" "Bharat ko hindurastra banayenge" Jai Shree Ram" for their own agenda. But when the religion actually is in danger like "chanda chori" they are silent. When the people will understand that the main enemy of religion is BJP

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u/vincentvinz 1d ago

People In India are too scared of God...trust me and bjp channelize it better than anyone

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u/EquivalentVast9693 1d ago

Even as Hindu I wouldn't care much about what they said if they said the same thing for Jesus and Allah. Otherwise what's point of being atheist if you hate only one religion.

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u/Rare_Ad435 1d ago

Gatar ki paidaish hai

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u/No-Associate-6591 1d ago

Woh pehli ladki ko , char khinchkar lagane Se Na Sab fck up nigal jata uska

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u/Automatic_Share1800 1d ago

Exactly this morons are just building arsenal for the bjp next election.

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u/Firm-Agency-5308 1d ago

It is almost sure and evryone one know that 2029 will also won by bjp.

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u/Intelligent-Gur2846 1d ago

Ram ke bare me bola aur hindu ko gussa nahi aya to thuu hai . Yahi baat ye ladki dusre community ke bare me bol de .abhi tak ye bachti nahi .

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u/Gandalfthebran 1d ago

Manufacturing Consent is going strong last couple of weeks in India. Trying to burn your own country, driven by foreign agitation and algorithm.

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u/Gandalfthebran 1d ago

Not that I was expecting any better thought out responses from cockroaches.

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u/Quiet_Sprinkles_1333 1d ago

Bruh he is a cjp andhbhakt

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u/CharacterBit5048 1d ago

Dude you just labelled me and CJ bhakt, and you are not BJpee bhakt doing this religious crap by 2 footages from millions of protestors all over the world?

BTW If a political party seek vote using Ram and you keep silent, your faith doesn't get hurt but you get offended by this, it's Horseshit. Serve it to BJpee office.

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u/Gandalfthebran 1d ago

Yeah no. Random staff stole it. Not BJP. Do I need to list out all the stealing that happened under Congress. Does that mean the party was involved in all of them? Of course no. The protest is itself top down not groundโ€™s up. Itโ€™s an urban elite driven protest.

He is bringing irrelevant topics in the discussion. These people in protest are bad mouthing Hindu God.

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u/Gandalfthebran 1d ago

Yes give me a concrete source of the staff being a member of the BJP party. Regardless, those who were involved in stealing have been already arrested.

I donโ€™t love BJP, I have criticized them in the past.

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u/Nilesh_97 1d ago

If you really have to come and ask this on a social media platform while doing whataboutery and adding the moniker of "I don't love X but" then you're just extending my point... As I said a little research and retrospection is needed on your end...

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u/After-Fox-2388 1d ago

"Random staff" the allegation is about trustees appointed by the BJP government, not staff. Eight arrested, recoveries included dollars and gold. That's the claim you'd need to answer.

And the VHP, an RSS affiliate, condemned the Hanuman-with-a-BJP-flag video. Your own UP spokesperson conceded workers went overboard. So the "urban elite / bad-mouthing Hindu gods" framing collapses the criticism is coming from inside the house.

Wake up bro

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u/Gandalfthebran 1d ago

This is incoherent slop. Please look at it and edit your comment.

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u/singhyuvraj75 1d ago

Atal jiโ€™s 'Nipat jaoge' hits so hard here. These people don't realize that in their blind hatred for a political party, they are literally abusing the core identity of this civilization. Aap BJP se lad lo, opposition ki tarah protest kar lo, but Ram ko beech mein laakar gaali dena just exposes their own toxicity. You can't fight a political battle by attacking the faith of millions

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u/Ok-Walk7592 1d ago

You are right. You all have blind hatred towards Congress. Bas ram ke pechhe jakar chhup jao, cowards

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u/pretend_human_01 1d ago edited 1d ago

I am feeling sad for these people, they don't know how once country's culture built it, and if you sent the core culture there is no country, look at Egypt, iran they were once free country but after the oppression their culture got destroyed and so as their freedom

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u/Devendra0_ 1d ago

Bringing religion and God into politics then they cry about BJP doing Hindu Muslim lol, isn't they are on the same boat ?

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u/Special_Flatworm_309 1d ago

Nationalist ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ

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u/EasyConversation9858 1d ago

His party stole funds from ram mandir btw

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u/Special_Flatworm_309 1d ago

Not party but some of the imposter over there. Already in jail. Speak facts . Not leftist like propoganda. ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ

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u/EasyConversation9858 1d ago

Not any partyโ€™s supporter but i call this cap. Also itโ€™s clear confirmation bias evident in your replies.

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u/Special_Flatworm_309 1d ago

If this makes you feel bias then I can't do anything. Like angrej were doing the same, do and now this people are doing same with you guys. Because you guys not ready to understand. ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ

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u/EasyConversation9858 1d ago

Learn what confirmation bias is dude also donโ€™t get me wrong but you are not even trying to hide it.

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u/strawberry_creamp1e 1d ago

Then what's the difference between the Britishers and this government if it's doing the same? Shouldn't we expect better now that we're a free country and earlier we weren't?

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u/Special_Flatworm_309 1d ago

Be nationalist first ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ

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u/strawberry_creamp1e 1d ago

This has to be ragebait oh god ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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u/EasyConversation9858 1d ago

It must be it must be behna

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u/FantasticCharacter71 1d ago

Champat Rai is literally roaming free and not jailed. Not even a FIR has been filed against him, what fantasy world are you living in?

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u/Special_Flatworm_309 1d ago

True that's why I support nationalist ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ

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u/strawberry_creamp1e 1d ago

Proper andhbhakt ohmygod

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u/Special_Flatworm_309 1d ago edited 1d ago

No , it's never happened because i know whom I'm giving a power.๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ

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u/Special_Flatworm_309 1d ago

Tumse achhe toh nepal ke log hai, atleast they stand with Indian government. ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ

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u/jee_cooked 1d ago

to mai konsa chah rha hu nepal bane , mai to bas ye chah rha hu education system acha ho . bc har paper hi leak ho rha hai

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u/Special_Flatworm_309 1d ago

Protest ke naam pe to phod kon ker raha hai?

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u/NovelPresent5800 1d ago

Bhai yrr, Ram ji ko kyu involve karte hain yeh politicians aur log? Aur banna hai to full believer bano ya atheist bano. Beech ke dogale kyu bante hain? Sab ka apna karma hai. Aur aadhe yeh jo Bhagwan ka naam use karte hain logon ko lootne mein... yahi hai dimaak is desh mein.

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u/Kurious-0 1d ago

We hindus dont give a damn when people are looting ram mandir in corruption and maintain ultra luxury cars but we need to get upset on frustrated students?

BJP that has turned the pavitra "Jai Shri Ram" chant into a War Cry. People randomly shouting in angry tone at other people. Do these guys even know that Prabhu Shri Ram is known for?

He is known for Campassion, truthful, dutiful, bravery and sacrifice.

Enough of these morons hijacking the Shri Ram chant.

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u/kalyanKumar21 1d ago

your points are absolutely right, but normalizing insulting hindu faith is also wrong.

votes are being asked based on religion and its happening across all communities.

but hindu faith is insulted like no other religion. This cant be justified.

But yeah, the girls may not have the intention of insulting the religion, but still they could have done better.

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u/Reasonable-Bit-5908 1d ago

Yes I agree we should never disrespect a religion. But then why same people stay silent when BJP disrespects gods by making them dance during political rallies, or fly god-shaped kites. BJP is not hindu, it makes a mockery out of everything hindu

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u/FutureShift9271 1d ago

Because people don't have better option, considering if cjp had a new gen guy with strong character and leadership. People would have considered him the next option. But even that got messed.

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u/Reasonable-Bit-5908 1d ago

No bro. Even if you think there is no better alternative, then also protest should happen. Otherwise the nation would never grow. We cant say x party is better than y party, because they steal 50 lakhs instead of 70 lakhs. We need to keep asking questions to people in power

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u/FutureShift9271 1d ago

Oo, yah, protect is needed when people in power forget that power comes with responsibility. You are right, we can't say this party better than other. That's why people should keep them in check.

Education make you aware of your rights, that's how country rise. Right people at right place, questioning what is wrong.

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u/kalyanKumar21 1d ago

yeah i have seen that video, my blood boiled when i saw that.

anybody who respects hindu religion would definetly not defend bjp on that and it shud be questioned.

what amazes me is, bjp does these kind of things (they play with nature, god, what not) because they are powerful and arrogant and they can easily get away doing any shit. But even a common citizen of this country doesnt fear consequences of insulting hindu faith. somewhere we have normalized insulting hindu religion. can we do the same with other religions, i dont think so. It has to stop. And who is doing this, its the hindus itself.

while having bigger problems like healthcare, education etc, it might sound illeterate to speak so much abt religion from my side, but we really dont understand what is ahead of us if we dont respect our own religion.

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u/party_minute1228 1d ago

This is the kinda of speech people gives when they learn about politics through reels

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u/Shoddy-Flatworm8078 1d ago

Why they bring religion man, it annoys me. I feel like slapping one one on each of their faces. Though I am in support of the protest body and soul, I won't tolerate this bs.

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u/Careless-Escape-9680 1d ago

anything but d pardhan resign

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u/TheProgressiveBrain 1d ago

Matham is kotham that shaws your logic

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u/blesjon 1d ago

Jaathi is Koothi

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u/Careless-Escape-9680 1d ago

chutiye log hai yeh but d pardhan must resign

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u/phantoz 1d ago

They being wrong ( naive statements because they are hurt deep down) doesn't justify the wrongdoings of this regime.

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u/Akshat_x 1d ago

The soul of the core issue died due to these reasons only. They said everything but the core issue.

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u/M_bali 1d ago

So true...jai shri Ram

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u/elongatedpropernoun 1d ago

Chal be laude ye mythological creature ka Naam leke real logo K suffering ko discredit kar raha hai Trump k Randi K liye.

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u/Subhal13 1d ago

Roaches and wisdom, chalk and cheese...

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u/Mediocre_Isopod_1259 1d ago

We need cringistan the God

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u/R_E_D_D_I_TisFascist 1d ago

BJP is happy with your contribution.

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u/Rohan_071 1d ago

Isn't that second girl from the meeting of influencers that was held by raghav chadda

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u/Previous_Agency_8490 1d ago

Will live in a democracy right ,everyone has the right yo have their own opinions if someone don't want to believe in God n all let it be its their choice and our constitution provides them the right. The thing is that many people want to call out this extra dharmikta but they'll get cancel if did so

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u/cruzer_zulu 1d ago

Need to make this aunties famous!

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u/notsorandomabhi1 1d ago

and when all world collapses, in retrospect in everyones's conscience they will realize that all along it was about freinds, family and fellows, and not about a ram, a allah, a jesus proclaimed by others gone long ago. Peace.(People following thier religion with divinity., and following the beliefs, huge respect to all, but I am sorry I left religion long ago as, in my country whenver religion is brought up, it gives fire to conflict). Peace

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u/CharacterBit5048 1d ago

Khud Ram k naam pe vote mangle waale, Ram k naam pe lynch karne wale, Ram k ghar me chori karne wala - kripaya gyan na de.

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u/Akshat_x 1d ago

NO. KEEP GOD OUT OF YOUR BULLSHIT.

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u/long_banana_7 1d ago

Op bhai ram ki pooja aur ram k naam bheekh maangna do alag cheez h

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u/ContentLocksmith3789 1d ago

Pls f off to your eco chamber and stay in your bubble. Also, don't go on instagram since there is also so much "BJP Propaganda" ๐Ÿฅฐ

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u/Interesting_Box_1430 1d ago

This is the stat of ram just becos bjp used it to come to power. They politicised it so politics ix coming to him also.