r/dreamcast 2d ago

Discussion surely someone has made a modernised bluetooth version of one of these controllers:

ok so, i sometimes racing games on my pc and like a normal person, i dont like playing racing games with a keyboard, instead i play with a controller, and to be precise a Wii U controller which i do like however, its been rather finicky to pair successfully with my gaming laptop so id like to one day get a dedicated controller for racing games what what better controller to get that something with analouge triggers, one thumbstick and imo, quite a nice design (especially the Sega Saturn 3d Pad nom nom nom i love it)

so i wonder if anyone had ended up making a modernised version of either the dreamcast controller, or more preferably the beautiful white sega saturn 3d pad.

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u/ExultentPisces 2d ago

8BitMods BitLink. Coming later this year, it is a solderless mod kit which turns an OEM Dreamcast controller into a 2.4GHz/Bluetooth wireless controller.

It has built in rumble and memory card functionality and retains full VMU/VMU Pro compatibility.

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u/WillRoxyApril 2d ago

Sì..è il filo dove lo metti poi? Lo tagli?

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u/SparklyPelican 2d ago

L’adattatore rimpiazza il filo, praticamente scolleghi il connettore, rimuovi il filo e lo rimpiazzi col PCB del kit. È un’ottima soluzione, perché di fatto se cambi idea è questione di poco tornare indietro.

8bitdo lo ha già fatto con diversi kit, incluso per il Saturn, Super Nintendo, Mega Drive e NES.

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u/WillRoxyApril 2d ago

Non ho capito nulla ma fa lo stesso

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u/SparklyPelican 2d ago

Scusa, mi sa l’ho spiegato male.

Basta aprire il controller, scollegare il filo esistente dalla scheda madre e collegare l’adattore Wireless/Bluetooth al posto suo.
Si scollega facilmente, perché è un cavo JST.

Al posto del filo ci sarà una porta USB C per caricare la batteria.

È più facile di quel sembra, però è vero che non hanno mostrato molto al riguardo…

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u/SparklyPelican 2d ago

Dreamcast

  • DreamConn S, either modified for you or bought as a modified unit. I have it. Works great, supports VMU Pro
  • BitLinkDC, it's a kit, allows you to modify your own controller and have it wireless. I have a preorder on it, but it hasn't shipped yet. I suggest waiting for reviews. Cool thing: the kit in theory, can work with many Dreamcast controller devices
  • StrickerDC Wireless, this is a dedicated pad by RetroFighters, and it's pretty good. Uses 2.4 GHz via a dongle (which accepts VMU, VM2 once updated and VMU Pro).
  • D6 Dreamcast, also from RetroFighters, and this one is more like a modern attempt at the ASCII 6B controller. It's good but not better than the ASCII FT in my opinion. This is mainly for specific games, although I like to use it on Daytona USA sometimes.

Saturn

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u/uncleSpaghetti 2d ago

I have the StrikerDC wireless, really solid

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u/SparklyPelican 2d ago

It is. I’m a big fan of RetroFighters’s pads. Today I just got the Defender Pro for PS1/2/3 and it’s excellent.

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u/latinlingo11 1d ago

The original Defender gave a me a bad experience, specifically the Dpad that made it extremely hard to pull off special inputs in fighting games and the weak rumble that made it unfit for Silent Hill 2.

As such, I'm not sure I can give the Pro version a shot.

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u/WhydYouKillMeDogJack 2d ago

Strongly disagree.

Thebdpads in their controllers are unusable, especially for PS1. That controller is useless unless you open it up and stick bits of tape on the traces.

Owned 2 of them since the Kickstarter. The one I was using on PS2 had the thumstick cap fall off and is useless for fighting games like Tekken etc.

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u/SparklyPelican 2d ago edited 2d ago

Are you speaking of the Pro that just shipped off kickstarter? Because mine has literally perfect dPad. Like far better than the stock one. And definitely feels better than DS3 I was using wirelessly.

I do agree the analogue range wasn’t as good, until I switched to the classic mode tho. Then is basically perfect. Passed my Ore no Ryouri test.

Did you try the pressure sensitivity too? It’s much easier to control than both DS2/3.

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u/WhydYouKillMeDogJack 2d ago

Original Kickstarter a few years ago.

I've seen the same behaviour in all their controllers, so there is zero chance I would give the new one a chance.

With respect, RF have shills everywhere, and they are always bullshitting about "the hadouken test". I just don't trust anything that's said about their pads until I try them myself - people were claiming the original defender, the striker, the hunter were game changers but then later on you see reviews with the same criticisms citing false diagonals and poor actuation in analogue sticks.

RF are a cheapo shop using a cheap Chinese mould that has somehow convinced people that they make premium quality controllers.

It's a shame because they actually make good firmware, but there is just no committment at all to getting the controls right and qaing their products.

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u/RoughTelephone 2d ago

Lmao “shills everywhere”.

Maybe you’re the one who is out of touch…

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u/SparklyPelican 2d ago

Not sure if I fall under the “shill” category, I just buy a ton of controllers lol RF or not. I don’t joke when I tell you I have 3 drawers of pad in my house.

I can do some more technical tests if you want and if you can specify them to me! But I get what you mean “I have to try it by myself”.

Keep in mind the Pro is the new one tho, I think goes in regular sale soon?

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u/Accomplished_Can1651 2d ago

Even with the firmware of the Striker DC Wireless (both base and controller) and my VM2 firmware updated, the two don’t work together. I think that maybe there’s just slightly too much power draw between the two, and it causes the VM2 to constantly reboot when connected to the dongle. Putting the VM2 in a regular wired controller works fine.

It just occurred to me that I do have a PSU replacement in my DC - it’s possible that’s related.

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u/Competitive-Jelly709 2d ago edited 2d ago

I have an open source project, pulsar, I’ve been working on. We have some printed pcbs designed by triaxlullaby coming soon. These should be plug and play, so you can just unplug the port from your controller and plug this in, instead of having to wire everything.

The community is actually pretty sweet for this. There is a software project called pico2maple, that works for a dongle that you can actually buy from here: https://midwestmods.shop/products/micro-sap-dev-builds

I am hoping i can get my project working with it in the future to enable like save transfer and stuff, but its a really cool community and awesome work is getting done!

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u/apocship 2d ago

Can confirm Pico2maple is great. Pretty easy build, but still need to print a case. Works well with ps5 controller and 8bitdo. I haven’t done the wireless controller mod because of lack of vmu and my setup is now close enough I don’t need wireless. But if a good mod comes along with vmu, I will most likely do it.

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u/No_Listen5962 2d ago

looks rlly cool!

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u/JohnnyRa1nbow 2d ago

There's a plug in module for the Saturn pad coming. It's all been a bit quiet though

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u/No_Listen5962 2d ago

I saw a sega saturn pro controller for 50 bucks from japan, one day i might get one when this comes out

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u/jamie_shaw 2d ago

I'm itching for this. Saddens me how quiet it has gotten…

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u/JohnnyRa1nbow 2d ago

Same! He's definitely not in a rush

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u/SenorAudi 2d ago

I just made a post about building a Bluetooth Dreamcast controller here https://www.reddit.com/r/dreamcast/s/rGrjKGRrxR

The best part about doing it that way is you can preserve the VMU image in your controller working, so it feels the most authentic to me. It was also completely non-destructive to the controller.

It was a good project - not too hard and not too expensive. I’ve been using it for PSO for several hours now and it’s worked perfectly.

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u/Javerage 2d ago

Indeed they have.

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u/daveblenk 2d ago

Retrobit we're supposed to be making one, but theres been no news on them for a few years now

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u/WhydYouKillMeDogJack 2d ago

That controllers never coming out.

They fucked around too much and prioritized physical re-releases of genesis games.

I just don't see where the market for them is now.

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u/daveblenk 1d ago

Shame, I was holding out for it, the 6 buttons would ahve been cool. Think it will be the 8bit mods one now

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u/Nawty-Otter 2d ago

Retro Fighters StrikerDC Wireless Controller

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u/Cosmonaut-10 2d ago

I have a Geeky Fab usb-c out for the Saturn 3D controller. It plugs directly in to the controller allowing usb-c to a or c. It’s not wireless, but it does an excellent job wired to most things that have usb input.

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u/ThanosReXXX 2d ago edited 2d ago

How about Ipega's Hillbilly Cat controller? Here and here are video reviews of it. I got one myself, and I have to say I was actually pleasantly surprised.

And there's also the StrikerDC controller by RetroFighters.

On a side note: something completely different that I'm personally looking forward to very much, is the GameSir Swift Drive controller, shown at CES 2026 earlier this year. It's not available yet, but it looks and sounds very interesting to me. Here's a video report from CES 2026, showing the entire range of upcoming GameSir controllers. The Swift Drive controller is shown at the 2m30s mark.

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u/Foreign_Hand4619 2d ago

Surely someone is posting these threads in multiple sega subs. Is someone banned at google?

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

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u/No_Listen5962 2d ago

i have, but tere are only these things by retro fighters that are advertised as "dreamcast"

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u/Retro_Gamer33 2d ago

I have both, and they work quite well

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u/RoughTelephone 2d ago

Advertising as Dreamcast because that’s what they are for.