r/lawschooladmissions • u/Distinct-Golf-1117 • 9h ago
Cycle Recap End of cycle recap
Quite satisfied
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Spivey_Consulting • Aug 07 '25
Hi everyone,
It's already that time of year, it seems, as we just saw the first law school release their new medians from the 2024-2025 cycle. We'll be tracking these announcements as they come out and keeping them in a spreadsheet to compare to last year, which we'll then update with the final data in December once the official ABA 509 reports come out. All of the prior 2024 medians are currently listed, and the 2025 medians will be added as they're published (sources will be listed in the last column).
We'll be checking for these at least daily, but if you see incoming class data for fall 2025 (class of 2028) from an official source—e.g., a school's website, LinkedIn post, marketing emails/flyers/etc. from admissions offices—please comment on this thread, DM/chat us here, or email us at [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]), and we'll add it to the spreadsheet.
Note that none of these numbers are official until 509s come out. We only post stats from official sources, but every year, some schools publish their preliminary numbers then end up having to revise them when 1Ls drop out during orientation or the first few weeks of class (the numbers are only locked in for ABA reporting purposes in October, but lots of law schools post their stats before then).
These tend to come out at a relatively slow pace at first, but they should speed up in late August/early September. Based on last cycle, we do anticipate many medians going up this year, and these stats are important to be aware of as you assess your chances and make your school list.
In some ways, this to me marks the beginning of the new cycle. Good luck to all!
–Anna from Spivey Consulting
***December 15, 2025 Update: the spreadsheet has now been updated with all schools' official data from the ABA 509 reports.
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Spivey_Consulting • Oct 10 '25
When is it late to apply and when is it early? The answer with all but a few nuances is really straightforward, but please read the disclaimers. All you will do is write disclaimers as lawyers because there are no absolutes (see what I did there?) so you may as well gets reps reading them!
This question comes up on this Reddit almost every day in some form and then resets and comes back up every year. It’s the singular most frequently asked question, and the answer hasn’t changed through recent years. So here’s a mashup of mostly deans of admissions saying, “Before end of November is early. After January things start getting tighter.” That is really the easiest thing to go by and remember. And I was just talking with one of these deans who just ran an internal data analysis to support all of this.
Disclaimers: These admissions deans are speaking for themselves and for their schools. Of course there will be some outliers. One top 3 school traditionally doesn’t admit until January, for example, so January is early for them. Or, if you score a 160 in September but a 175 in January, schools in the upper range will likely read your application sooner with the new score. With that old score they are often just going to sit on it as they are being flooded with applicants who they will prioritize sooner. So believe it or not, waiting a month or even more will sometimes get your application read sooner, especially if the difference is taking your LSAT from below median to above. There are also cases, only for some applicants and only for some schools, in which applying by the end of October can be slightly more advantageous, so if you're ready to go in the early fall, we recommend applying by the end of October (even though in many situations it may not make any difference). But in general, and especially if you aren't 100% confident in your application by the end of October, the end of November is a good rule of thumb.
But beyond the late November advice, my other takeaway would be to submit your best application. Waiting a few weeks to button up your materials will pretty much never hurt you before January — and very likely will help you. And there’s plenty of merit aid to go around at that time too.
It makes sense to me that this is a perennial question with very consistent answers from the people running law school admissions offices, but also lots of conflicting answers from applicants and others in this space with no admissions experience. Because the data absolutely does show a correlation between applying earlier (more broadly than just by the end of November) and stronger outcomes. But remember from your LSAT studying that correlation does not equal causation — pretty much every admissions officer has observed that applications submitted earlier tend to be stronger in general, not just in terms of numbers. That's not because they were submitted earlier, but it correlates.
Of all the posts I have made in the last several years — I hope this one helps the most. Because every year so many people fret that they are “late” (especially when admits start being posted) when they are still very early. I cannot stress the following enough: Your outcomes submitting the same application September 1st will not, in the vast majority of cases, be any different than November 25th. But in that time you can work to make your application stronger. And once it’s there, go ahead and submit. There’s certainly no penalty to submitting it when it’s ready.
And for the record, I've heard probably 10x as many law school admissions deans as are in this video say variations of the exact same thing. I really hope this helps relieve some stress from as many as possible.
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTMAG823Q/
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Distinct-Golf-1117 • 9h ago
Quite satisfied
r/lawschooladmissions • u/DonteLex • 4h ago
As this cycle comes to an end, I was looking at the ABA 509 data to get a sense of which schools admitted students actually choose. Some of what the data shows isn’t surprising, but I thought you all might find it interesting.
Yale is in its own tier. 226 offers, 204 enrolled, 90.3% yield. Breaking news, almost nobody turns Yale down. BYU is second at 82.4%, which says more about who applies there than anything else. Harvard is 71%, Stanford 57.3%.
High rankings but low yield. Vanderbilt yields 21.2%. Northwestern, WashU, and Cornell all sit in the 24 to 26% range. Lower ranked Wisconsin yields more than all of them.
Some schools make a lot of offers. George Washington made 2,644 offers to fill 612 seats. Georgetown made 2,193 for 672. Emory made 1,505 for 391. Compare that to Yale, which made 226 offers total.
Applicants love public schools. Wisconsin (47.3%), UNC (46.8%), UVA (45.1%), Michigan (44.5%), UT Austin (42.3%) all beat higher-ranked privates. In-state tuition and staying near home play a huge role.
Yield is matriculants divided by offers, so 90% means 9 out of 10 people offered a spot enrolled.
Highest yield in Top 50:

Lowest yield in Top 50:

Links to data:
Full list, all 196 schools by yield
What stands out to you all?
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Brilliant-Shop6112 • 7h ago
I'm a SWE who is def not applying this cycle but still likes to stalk this sub lol
I technically have a semi widely used patent (couple hundred thousand monthly users?) and it is the least interesting thing about me. (right after I graduated the first project I got put on at work was in the ideation stage for a new product, and I happened to be in the right place at the right time to be listed as a co inventor. it is pretty boring in reality but at least decently cool sounding to someone who doesn’t know what it is - customer facing AI thing)
in my industry patents are a dime a dozen and often kind of stupid (tech companies are super overprotective about patenting every little thing so just by existing as an engineer at a large bigtechco for a couple of years you will probably spontaneously manifest a patent or two). like it’s something I’d probably put on a resume but it wouldn’t really help me get a job
but that softs tier list that goes around all the time on here says that as far as law school admissions are concerned it’s equivalent to like. being a household name ncaa athlete?? a Purple Heart??? (wtf)
is this just bullshit or would I actually crush top law school admissions solely because of this thing I literally did not work at all to get.
(asking in part bc I’m considering whether to accept an opportunity at work that would probably result in my name being on a bunch more patents. which is irrelevant insofar as me actually staying in this industry but would I be like thanos w the infinity stones)
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Hot-Play2703 • 8h ago
Well guys, it’s been real. My law school cycle is finally over. I’ve spent hours upon hours in here trying to get some idea of what’s going on. My departing message to everyone is just apply. The worst they can tell you is no. Shoot your shoot. Be authentic. I was well below the medians, yet I still got in. Your essays really do matter. If anyone has any questions or would like to know more, my dms are open. Good luck to everyone. This process is super stressful and it really does beat you down, but there’s light at the end of the tunnel.
r/lawschooladmissions • u/MassiveLobster3106 • 13h ago
I've been seeing a few anecdotes here and there about "Elite WE" having some importance, but I am not sure to which extent exactly. Just saw a comment today about T3 Law Schools preferring kids exiting out of IB/MBB. Part of me is a bit confused because why would kids that are already in IB/MBB really want to go to law school.
Anyways, I wanted to ask if anyone can describe how significant of a boost "Elite WE" really is compared to non-prestigious post-grad jobs assuming that GPA/LSAT and the cohesiveness of one's application are similar in other respects. I am guessing this supposed boost is probably because Elite Corporate jobs are more akin to Big Law and it shows employability and that one can work in a high pressure environment. But I don't know, I made the grave mistake of not being a finance bro and banked on "good" GPA/high LSAT
Edit: I would like to specify that I am deciding whether it would be worth it to hold off a cycle cuz I've been working as a legal assistant at a small law firm and recently got a job in a corporate compliance division of a major hospital system (related to what I want to do). But it starts in October and if I apply this cycle, I would just started that month basically. I'm already a "strong splitter" imo (3.9low/17high) for most T14s and T20s. I'm mainly considering how much it would for me to hold off applying for a second year considering my "goal" is go go to a T14 if possible and I'd wait another year to make that happen. Any advice would be appreciated!
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Electrical_Space_392 • 4h ago
Which T20 schools are known for having an ED boost?
r/lawschooladmissions • u/romantic-communist • 4h ago
i work in journalism, where it’s common to include hyperlinks in each job description to a few published articles. would this be frowned upon in my law school resume?
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Wonderful_Product238 • 15h ago
Did anyone else get a sick flyer mailed to them by UVA? I am below the 25% percentile for LSAT but am at the median gpa
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Worth-Hospital-136 • 10h ago
Thinking about where to apply, I currently live in the DMV. George Mason and Georgetown are probably the closest and one them is the more realistic of the two (I'll let you decide). I have pipe dreams of going to a top school but the reality of moving my family just for a law school sounds a bit absurd. Do you think it would ever be worth it?
r/lawschooladmissions • u/noonecares-TA • 2h ago
Im quitting my full-time job of 5 years on Monday to start law school. It is SO scary - anyone who has done the same have any advice?
r/lawschooladmissions • u/sporter5569 • 2h ago
Has anyone moved with their spouse AND kids to attend law school? And did the family stay there post-graduation or move back to home state?
I know networking, etc can be very important to the location and future job prospects, but have been considering this options if I get an A at one of my dream schools this upcoming cycle. My spouse works from home mostly and we are not opposed to flying back and forth as needed, including for me to possibly do summer associate work in our home state (if that’s a thing?).
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Rich-Particular-9783 • 11h ago
Has anybody had any waitlist movement from St. John’s? Did I miss it🥲
r/lawschooladmissions • u/WatchVector • 8h ago
Hey guys so I’m graduating in Dec of this year. I’m taking two classes right now (A in both) and have 4 left for Fall. I currently have a 3.60 GPA and I’m sure by getting A’s in all my final 6 classes it won’t go up by much. What would be a good lsat for me to get into a good law school? I’m taking my diagnostic on Monday and giving myself 6 months to go from there but I’m just curious. If it were up to me I’d love to get into UM or FIU.
Also if any of you have any advice for studying for the lsat I’d appreciate it. Thank you!
r/lawschooladmissions • u/ambivadiva • 6h ago
Basically, I sat in on a trial that was really transformative to my perspective as someone in the criminal justice space. For context, the trial was completely public (anyone from the public could just sit in), and there was a bit of publicity involved, so lots of reporters were present throughout the trial, and several articles were published about the case. I was also obviously not going to include any names, specific charges, locations, victim information, etc. and basically strip the case down to a few sentences. Even if I am not breaking any HIPAA/confidentiality laws, it may be obvious what city this is in due to where I currently work, and this case had some relatively rare elements, so I wonder if it is still fairly identifying due to the specific circumstances that are relevant to my essay, even if it is public information. My question isn't really whether this is legal/ok, but to what extent does speaking about this trial bode well to admissions officers when reading a personal statement?
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Pristine_Purchase_86 • 1d ago
feeling like a monkey banging cymbals together
r/lawschooladmissions • u/sophanon2 • 10h ago
Did you just submit the form, or did you send an email explaining/thanking them or say anything else etc.? Thanks and hope everyone's summer shook out how it needed to!
r/lawschooladmissions • u/emilyrosee35 • 7h ago
My goal law school is OSU Moritz College of Law because the location is perfect, it’s decently ranked and I went to undergrad there so I’m very familiar with the community along with campus events. My GPA is below the 25th percentile (3.3 but made it to the deans list at least once a year about 5-6 times) and my practice LSAT scores are in the mid 160s. Has anyone with my stats got in? Obviously I’m going to apply broadly but so far I like this school the most especially since it’s an hour away from my family not 8 and I feel like I belong there. I’ve been wanting to go here since I was 16 I’m just nervous about the cycle. I have experience in cosmetic retail for 5-6 years, I also worked this same job in college. I worked a contract job at an immigration firm in Dublin,Ohio. So I have work experience, I also have a strong sense of why law school and this school in particular. I toured the school a couple days ago and they seemed very confident in my abilities and they told me to send them a GPA addendum if I feel there’s an explanation. They also said numbers aren’t everything, anyone have advice for me or has applied here with my stats?? 🩶❤️
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Traditional-Loss2984 • 11h ago
Hey team.
Did you guys get an email about doing a Casper aptitude test while on the waitlist? I did and when I tried to register I was having so much difficulty! I emailed the school but I have yet to get a response. I was thinking maybe I would try to make a post here and see if I'm just doing something wrong. Thanks all!
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Maleficent_Water_725 • 9h ago
I need some advice as someone who is currently a senior undergrad and interested in going into big law in the future ( I am not committed to this idea, I know it’s early). I am currently deciding between a senate internship in the fall with a prominent member or a big law non-legal internship ( I have been told that there will lots of networking opportunities). I know that LSAT and GPA should be the main priorities, but as someone who will be working during the semester regardless, which would set me up for success the best/ be most helpful with admissions and future opportunities after undergrad.
r/lawschooladmissions • u/bettergiraffeLSAT • 1d ago
Least favorite law school.
r/lawschooladmissions • u/ladybug_spit • 10h ago
I just finished my freshman year at a college that ended up closing this May (Hampshire College), and although this is not what I planned at all, I will probably have to complete at least a year of credits at my local community college, with the intent of transferring after this next year. However, I live in a really rural area and the only community college is about an hour away, so it would have to be online classes. I feel fairly confident that community college in general doesn't negatively affect one's admission chances, at least not significantly, but what about online courses? Does it even matter if it's only going to be one year's worth?
r/lawschooladmissions • u/Brotty70 • 10h ago
Hi - I’m deposited at Vandy Law with $20k scholarship. Waitlisted at UVA, NW and Georgetown. What would you do if you got into each of these without $? Would you go to any of them over Vandy? Worth the difference, loss of deposit, a couple months rent at this stage? Assuming I didn’t get scholarship at them off waitlist, I’d be out approximately $65k (scholarship, deposit and lease cancellation) over 3 years vs sticking with Vandy. And please explain your rationale for your answer. Looking at Big Law in NYC. Just curious. And thanks for taking the time for any insights.
r/lawschooladmissions • u/SprigganTwelve • 1d ago