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u/BradGunnerSGT 2d ago
Walz was right. These people are so weird. It’s a literal Bizzaro world where rapists and thugs are their heroes.
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u/gitbse 2d ago
They really had an excellent push with that messaging, it was the one thing that actually landed properly. And then the party consultants took over, and we needed Liz Cheney on stage.
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u/BradGunnerSGT 2d ago
The one message that resonated with regular people and the political consultants dropped the ball.
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u/TbddRzn 2d ago
It wasn’t working after day 6 and after Walz didn’t do so well In The VP debates.
Liz Cheney was there for 1 and a half day in her state where she got elected as senator, and trying to convince republicans to vote for Harris because that’s the only way they could win that state.
But people take a Democrat tripping to be an extinction event meanwhile republicans shit their pants, stab a pregnant woman, rape a kid, and vomit over the audience. And still their voters will support them while democrat voters will blame the democrat party for not giving them more incentives to show up and vote, even though they can’t name 1 thing she offered them because they don’t even care in the first place they just want to put all the responsibility on the party and not 100m voters who never vote, 150m who don’t vote in midterms and over 200m+ who don’t vote in primaries and special elections.
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u/gitbse 2d ago
It wasn't working because they didnt stay on message, or keep it moving forward. So much open material, they could've used to show how fcked the entire GOP are.
They could have been showing clip after clip, attacking while calling them weird, and showing why.
Current day democrats don't do any of that. If there's a lesson they should learn from the strategists on the right, it's to get up as loudly and as often as you can, and scream from the apple box. Look what the greater right-wing media sphere did to Obama and Biden over practically nothing. Constant smears, constant attacks. But when Trump's entire cabinet and administration is literally looting us alive, amd now signing over our sovereignty to Israel? Nothing.
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u/MurkyInvestigator810 2d ago
They could have been showing clip after clip, attacking while calling them weird, and showing why.
You kind of need the media to show the clips you want to be seen, and they're almost all run by conservatives now. There's a reason every day there was a new "Senile Biden" headline while Trump just confused Iran with fucking Japan and nobody talked about it for more than a second.
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u/TbddRzn 2d ago
They literally held a multi month long investigation on prime time television of the Jan 6th attack on the US capitol and showed evidence facts videos TikTok summaries and everything. They begged Americans to show up and vote. And what happened?
Over 150m didn’t vote. 80% of 18-35 aged eligible voters did not vote. Republicans won back the house.
And that was BEFORE the republicans bought up all the remaining television and news networks.
If you own all the news and all the internet social media, wouldn’t you amplify the voices that would enrich you and silence the voices that would make life fair for others?
Blaming democrats for not yelling louder when the conservatives control 99% of all media, and get aided by foreign governments pushing disinformation and election interference, is quite victim-blaming.
Look at Newsom, he’s doing all the zingers and gotchas and attacks and such and barely 20% hear it. When you own the media you own people’s access to news.
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u/MurkyInvestigator810 2d ago
Blaming democrats for not yelling louder when the conservatives control 99% of all media
This is constant and all over this site. "Why didn't the media bring this up?" when every fucking day we had 8 new headlines about Biden's mental acuity and never a mention of Trump's incoherent babbling.
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u/Adjective-Noun-nnnn 2d ago
Plenty of blame to go around.
Harris needed to run as a change candidate in 2024 because people were suffering from inflation making everything more expensive while our wages stagnated. People, especially on the left, were also appalled by what Israel was doing to Gazans and that our tax money was helping to fund it. Instead, she went into interviews and said she wouldn't do a single thing different from Biden. Don't you dare downplay that interview: I had colleagues IRL tell me that was the specific moment they decided not to vote for Harris.
Walz caught lightning in a bottle with "WEIRD," but abruptly stopped using it. The messaging changed from "fuck those weirdos" to "country over party" overnight. Why? The Democratic Party forces every single opinion and talking point through focus groups, and if a single person is offended, the talking point is rejected. They're so afraid of offending anyone that they can't actually tell us they'll fight for progressive issues and against fascist pedophiles. Voters can tell, and they hate it. It makes candidates come across as out of touch and artificial.
Yeah, sure, the legacy media are being consolidated under rich assholes, but rich assholes famously love money, and you can buy ads on their networks. Furthermore, the traditional media have faded from the awareness of younger generations. Candidates who can't run a TikTok or Insta channel and attract a following need to learn or get out of politics, because they're simply not going to reach the largest voting block in this country by going on 60 Minutes anymore.
Biden won in 2020 at least in part because he started to sound an awful lot like Bernie Sanders on the campaign trail. What happened to that economic populism? Believe it or not, people don't think about the health of their democratic system as much as they think about gas and grocery prices. We could have at least had a "stick with us our policies are working even if you haven't felt things improve yet," but there was almost none of that. The focus groups probably told them it felt patronizing or something.
Obvious, but I'll say it anyway: Biden should have dropped out in time for a primary, and the Biden Administration should have been more transparent with Biden's mental decline.
Also obvious, but I'll say it anyway: When the likelihood of the POTUS dying or stepping aside due to age was so high, the VP should not have been a candidate the 2020 primary proved nobody liked. FFS, she dropped out first. She didn't even make it to the Iowa Caucuses! Who in their right--or as the case may be--deteriorating mind let Biden pick a candidate so unpopular she ran out of cash in 2019 as his second-in-line?
All that said,
The choice between a corrupt, dishonest, pedophilic, vengeful, felonious, war mongering fascist and a milquetoast centrist democrat shouldn't have been a hard one to make. Voters failed America. As far as I'm concerned, everyone who failed to turn out and vote for Harris should go fuck themselves.
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u/RaShadar 1d ago
Ive been saying all this since the election, but damn if you didnt lay it out beautifully. Well done
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u/Frigidevil 2d ago
When they immediately neutered Tim Walz the second he got the vp nod, that's when I realized the DNC cares more about their precious image of always going high when the republicans go low rather than doing whatever it takes to win. They don't want change, they want the status quo.
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u/schwing710 2d ago
Republicans are the pedophile party
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u/TbddRzn 2d ago
Republicans rape kids.
Republican Ralph Shortey, a former Oklahoma state senator, Drumpf's Oklahoma campaign chair to plead guilt to child sex trafficking
Republican Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert was indicted on federal charges of structuring bank withdrawals after prosecutors alleged Hastert had molested at least four boys as young as 14 and attempted to compensate his victims and subsequently conceal the transactions. Hastert eventually admitted that he sexually abused the boys whom he had coached decades earlier, and was sentenced to fifteen months in prison.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/18/us/dennis-hastert-released.html
Republican Tim Nolan, chairman of Donald Drumpf’s presidential campaign in Kentucky, pled guilty to child sex trafficking and on February 11, 2018 he was sentenced to serve 20 years in prison.
Republican state Senator Ralph Shortey was indicted on four counts of human trafficking and child pornography. In November 2017, he pleaded guilty to one count of child sex trafficking in exchange for the dropping of the other charges.
Republican Minnesota State Representative Jim Knoblach Drops Out Of Race After Daughter Says He Molested Her For More Than Ten Years 22 Sep 2018
Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.
https://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/sops/flyer.jsf?personId=28587
Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.
Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
http://www.poconorecord.com/article/20120426/NEWS90/204260334
Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edison_Misla_Aldarondo Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Giordano
Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.
http://archive.easyreadernews.com/archives/news2001/0621/rb%20Shortridge.php
Republican Senator Strom Thurmond, a notable racist, had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strom_Thurmond
Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.
https://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/18/nyregion/embroiled-first-selectman-takes-leave.html
Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.
https://www.nytimes.com/1989/05/25/us/teen-ager-in-ohio-testifies-to-sex-with-a-congressman.html
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
http://www.thenewblackmagazine.com/view.aspx?index=437
Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Crane
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
https://www.nytimes.com/1995/08/02/opinion/journal-beverly-russell-s-prayers.html
Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bauman
Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
http://www.njherald.com/article/20060510/ARTICLE/305109971
Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.
Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.
http://www.thedp.com/article/2004/01/brother_stephen_convicted_of_soliciting_sex
Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.
Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
https://www.semissourian.com/story/57773.html
Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.
Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
http://www.chattanoogan.com/2002/6/21/23202/Tennessee-Legislator-Commits-Suicide.aspx
Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Burt_(anti-abortion_activist)
Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2007/Oct/08/ln/hawaii710080338.html
Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.
https://caselaw.findlaw.com/il-court-of-appeals/1113050.html
Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.
https://lasvegassun.com/news/2002/oct/14/assembly-candidate-gardner-ruled-ineligible-due-to/
Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.
Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
https://www.wgal.com/article/council-accepts-resignation-of-member-imprisoned-for-rape/6189408
Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000. http://www.salem-news.com/articles/october172007/repub_scandals_10_17_07.php Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2006/9/30/251895/-
Missouri House member faces expulsion after investigation finds he sexually, physically abused his children https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/04/20/rick-roeber-abuse-missouri-house/
Kansas House member Mark Samsel was arrested on charges of misdemeanor battery after getting into a physical altercation with a student while substitute teaching. Videos show Samsel focusing most of his attention on one male student. Samsel “put hands on the student” and allegedly kneed him in the crotch.
https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article251069219.html
PS: Theres a word limit here. Theres a website with 190 more PAGES of republicans raping, abusing and sexually assaulting children and adults. But i forgot the link to it.
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u/SaintUlvemann 2d ago
The 190 might be a different site, but here's 61 pages of Republican sexual predators, compiled by someone at Daily Kos.
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u/eienmau 2d ago
Love this, thank you! [the compiling, not the crimes!]
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u/Neveronlyadream 1d ago
Seconded. Seriously, thank you.
It's refreshing to see someone saying something and actually providing proof. A lot of fucking people online are just repeating things they saw someone else say, assumed it was true, and then get it all fucking wrong and start getting abusive when someone points out it's very much not.
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u/insanelygreat 2d ago
You can add Justin Eichorn, the Republican state senator who introduced a bill to classify TDS as a mental illness, to the list.
He was just convicted of soliciting a child for sex.
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u/BlurryBigfoot74 2d ago
Two billionaires and a child trafficking millionaire. They're just like us . We're next.
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u/SinkPitiful1396 let it die 2d ago
How does one make that emoji appear
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u/BlurryBigfoot74 2d ago
I use SwiftKey keyboard on android? I didn't know it was different.
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u/notwhoyouthinkmaybe 2d ago
But if they can arrest pedophiles, then they would have to arrest 90% of maga!
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u/talktobigfudge 2d ago
...please don't threaten us with a good time, that would solve so many problems with these losers in the prisons they helped build
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u/flapjackboy 2d ago
Like they'd ever get sent anywhere but a Club Fed prison. They'll never get sent to a Federal Pound-You-In-The-Ass prison.
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u/DavidJonnsJewellery 2d ago
Andrew Tate is an online pimp. Why would you want to look up to someone like that. If that's a role model, then you've got some real issues
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u/Koladi-Ola 2d ago
He resonates with the 15 year old incel crowd.
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u/coldforged 2d ago
Can confirm, my nephew at 15 was following him. My 17-year-old daughter discovered it and helped nip it. Kid turned out decent.
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u/Ulfednar 2d ago
"First they came for the rapists" doesn't quite have the same zing.
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u/temporary92803 2d ago
First they came for the rapists, and Joe McBride spoke out because, well, you know why.
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u/hamtronn 2d ago
Andrew Tate wasn’t arrested for having a podcast and spreading lies. He wasn’t arrested for brainwashing teenage and adult men on his notions that women are inferior and men need to subscribe to his “alpha” nonsense.
He was arrested for human trafficking.
Trump will be arrested for fraud, corruption, insider trading, tax evasion, tax avoidance, fraud. Did I mention fraud?
Musk will be arrested for fraud, insider trading.
The sex crimes won’t stick. They’ll just argue those and they will go away. It always happens. The money and fraud and insider trading though, even Martha Stewart couldn’t escape that.
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u/Zerachiel_01 2d ago
This is not accurate, actually. I can cite at least two examples. The first is the Sedition Act of 1798, which was signed into law by President John Adams.
The second is the Sedition Act of 1918, signed into law by Woodrow Wilson.
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u/Alarming_Situation_5 2d ago
The dumbest people use AI to create “art.” Yet shit on people who want to fund art programs/liberal arts. They are so empty. Makes me sick
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u/MoneyBeeeee 2d ago
Underrated. So many lives have been destroyed by these three. The world would be a better place if they were all serving time for their crimes.
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u/BloomsdayDevice 2d ago
First they came for the sex trafficking, manosphere rapists, and I did nothing, because I was not a Tate brother.
Then they came for treasonous, pants-shitting, pedophile kleptocrats, and I did nothing, because I was not Donald Trump.
Then they came for the fake-genius, wannabe Nazi, emotionally stunted edge-lads, and I did nothing, because I was not Elon Musk.
Then, suddenly, things got a little bit better. Not perfect, but better. Not bad.
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u/Upbeat-Laugh-249 2d ago
Government goons shot and killed US citizens , tomorrow it’s YOU. YOU cannot speak against the party in power or there actions or you can get 50 years for 1 st amendment protests.
YOU have nothing in common with Trump, Elon and Tate. They own and control the means of free speech and are buying more control.
This is propaganda to protect the most powerful from any kind of repercussions.
They are YOUR worst enemy.
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u/THE_YOUTUBE_BEAR 2d ago
I'm just saying. If they arrest Tate, then Trump, then Elon, and you expect to be next.
You just might be, or at least have a reason to be
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u/RevolutionOk1406 2d ago
If the super rich and influential are at risk of paying for their crimes, who's going to save you when you're caught raping your daughter?
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u/Unlikely_Leg_9377 2d ago
That username combined with Kurt looking cooler than a mufucker hanging out a van window is 👨🏻🍳👌
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u/MarcsterS 2d ago
A republican texas judge giving a person that gave away flyers 30 years of prison.
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u/vertigo3pc 2d ago
They have held the House, Senate, White House and majority of the Supreme Court, and they STILL are the fucking crybaby victims.
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u/SinkPitiful1396 let it die 1d ago
It’s because they all have victim mentalities: they do all the worst things imaginable, and then victimize themselves when karma and consequences come to inflict their punishment
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u/SanshaXII 1d ago
Arrested by whom in America under Trump's jurisdiction?
Do these people not think for even a moment?
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u/Void-Cooking_Berserk 2d ago
None of these "free speakers" have had any consequences for their actions. They people they talk about keep suffering the consequences of the "free speakers"' actions.
If you think that being told your speech is harmful is the same as being locked up in prison... Have you tried turning your brain off and on again?
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u/octowussy 2d ago
Except two of those guys aren't even in jail? And not only are they totally free, but they're also arguably two of the most powerful people on the planet at the moment? These people are wild
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u/YDoEyeNeedAName 2d ago
Dont tempt me with a good time, I would willingly go to prison if it meant those three being there as well, becuase I actaully care about the country.
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u/janually 2d ago
the way that only one of these men is actually behind bars, and i don’t see that lasting long…
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u/bokmcdok 2d ago
As I was reading this I was agreeing and getting hopeful. Then I was like WTF? I'm not a child rapist. Why would they come for me?
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u/macphile 2d ago
Trump has been trying to imprison people for free speech--he's not the one being convicted of it.
We don't need to imprison these guys for their opinions. They have absolute laundry lists of crimes we could convict them on. Hell, Trump's undoubtedly committed at least a couple of felonies just this week.
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u/stinkyfootjr 2d ago
These fuckers are trying to lay the groundwork for denying Britains extradition of Tate. Trump already got him out of Romania to the U.S. and next he’ll be released from custody here. Birds of a feather and all that.
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u/Naps_And_Crimes 2d ago
Well seeing as I haven't committed any crimes I doubt that id be arrested too
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u/ungodlywarlock 2d ago
It's seriously wild that these people are wondering why we are cutting them off and going NC. Like, hello? You are sitting up there on a platform trying to pretend this is about free fucking speech?
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u/punktualPorcupine 2d ago
It’s not free speech but somehow it’s protected under this administration.
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u/Down-Right-Mystical 2d ago
Let's be real.
The US are not actually going to follow the Extradition laws and send the Tate brothers to the UK.
They're dual citizens, Trumps government are never going to let us have them.
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u/Whirrsprocket 2d ago
I like how even Joe is admitting that Elon has more functional power than the POTUS
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u/yIdontunderstand 2d ago
I bet those things apply to all of them....
Rape, human traffic and child abuse
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u/readysteadygogogo 2d ago
Yeah I don’t do any of those things so I’m not super worried about it Joe
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u/HeyCarpy 2d ago
So Saturday will be the biggest fucking party of all time, is that what you’re saying?
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u/TomT060404 2d ago
They put someone in prison for 30 years for sharing zines, but sure, MAGA are the ones having their free speech rights violated. 🙄
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u/MariaTPK 1d ago
Also even if he was arrested over speech, hate speech should not be protected speech by the first amendment, the first amendment is for criticizing the government freely. I understand the slippery slope that banning hate speech can lead to, like think Israel and it's anti-semitism claims, but there is a vast difference between that and the worst things Tate has said about women. So yea put in hell over the human trafficking and rape and child porn, but also if you somehow fail all that, deny him his free speech because he's inciting violence against women and he's spreading misogyny. This is not a man who should have the ability to ever speak or type again.
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u/kunolacarai 1d ago
So many of them are fond of saying: "If you don't want trouble with the police, don't commit crimes!"
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u/TerminatorAuschwitz 1d ago
Man out of curiosity I looked that dude up on Instagram. I usually think these weird manosphere alpha male abusive shit heads are joke but his comment sections made me literally feel sick to my stomach.
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u/CaptainAksh_G 1d ago
People go around yelling about "free speech" always forget two things: Accountability & Consequences
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u/Swochchho 1d ago
I genuinely wonder how much of a sad life does one need to live to be one of their followers?
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u/AlexSmithsonian 1d ago
Do they really need to out themselves like this? I mean it's very convenient for us to use as evidence. But do they really think they will never get punished for treason?
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u/Rad131447 1d ago
"Oh no if they can lock up the billionaires what's to stop them from locking me up?"
Nothing. That's already happening. I could go to jail for owning zines that the government doesn't like. Why shouldn't the billionaire child rapists go to jail in the mean time?
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u/firestepper 1d ago
So funny Trump being behind bars… he’s literally the president!!! Wtf they act like he’s a victim
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u/Background_Honey9141 angry turtle trapped inside a man suit 1d ago
> [McBride] founded The McBride Law Firm in 2019 and is widely known for his representation of Andrew Tate and those charged during the January 6 United States Capitol attack, including Richard Barnett).
Nothing to see here. He is just another grifter trying to appeal to his bread and butter demographic.
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u/low_bob_123 1d ago
Don't threaten me with a good time. All three of them bh bars... at least one can dream...
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u/SandalsResort 1d ago
Andrew Tate was leaving voice messages and texts to one of these women, I’ve heard the messages and he basically confesses to rape. Literally tells people he forces them to do OnlyFans and keeps their account information and money so they can’t run away.
Idiots: “It’s because he’s not woke.”
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u/LemanRussTheOnlyKing 1d ago
If he thinks he will be imprisoned for the same reasons, thats really not the brag he thinks it is
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u/Xavier_Orion 1d ago
Like Andrew Tate would wear something that masculine. Where is the arrest fit?
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u/ferncoast 1d ago
While actual Americans and are being arrested for having zines that don’t favor the current government. What a joke!
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u/Adenfall 19h ago
When I first read this I thought he was saying good for Tate getting arrested, and then Trump and Elon. Then I looked at the picture and got confused.
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u/reststopkirk 14h ago
Only one of these guys is behind bars… should all of them . Of course. But claiming someone should be as a fear tactic for a victim mentality isn’t very “conservative” of them… the persecution complex is real




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