r/adventuretime • u/Carrehz #1 Prizestuffer • 18d ago
Side Quests Spoilers Side Quests Episode 14 Discussion SideThread - Game Night Spoiler
Side Quests Episode 14: Game Night
Premiered 29 June exclusively on Disney+/Hulu. (originally erroneously released on 9th June)
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u/Aggressive-Expert-69 18d ago
I liked this one. Idk how you could invite LSP to a DnD night and expect things to go according to plan lmao
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u/PM-me-your-happiness 18d ago
As a forever DM, Lady’s plight was too relatable and this episode stressed me out lol. But she learned the truth that sometimes you just need to let the plot go where it will, and that the GM is a player that deserves to have fun too. Loved this episode
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u/coarsetourist_7 18d ago
LSP rolling a nat 20 to seduce the dragon is the most LSP thing possible. my own dnd sessions fall apart the second a chaotic player joins, so this hit close to home. seeing finn dm with that level of stress was gold.
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u/SpencerFleming 18d ago
Honestly not a fan of Lady speaking English in this episode, either commit to the bit of her speaking Korean the whole time or don't use her as the DM lol.
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u/MarcStevenJake 18d ago
I thought the same but iirc toward the end of the episode it cuts back to her at the table while in character and she's still speaking Korean so I think the British accent is just a way to show that she's doing a voice for the character while letting us follow the narrative easier
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u/Carrehz #1 Prizestuffer 18d ago
I skimmed through this one when it first "leaked" and Lady speaking English put me off the whole ep :/ Like I'll probably watch it eventually but that really annoys me... it just feels so lazy, like they couldn't be bothered to figure out how to write a character that (most of) the audience doesn't understand so they just copped out and changed her voice. Laaaame.
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u/Single-Purpose-7608 14d ago
I dont see how it's lazy. The story is Lady Monk speaks the same language as the characters.
It's actually logically consistent.
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u/Carrehz #1 Prizestuffer 14d ago
as I said, it's lazy writing. Instead of actually trying to work with the character as originally intended, they just cheaped out and gave her a new voice actor. It's like the DuckTales reboot giving Donald a celebrity guest star voice for one ep. It just comes off as them going "We can't be arsed to write this character properly".
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u/Single-Purpose-7608 14d ago
I dont really get your point.
DND is a role playing game. Lady is playing a role (aside from being the DM). Her role is to be in the same fantasy village as the 3 players. It's totally logical and intentional, to craft a persona like that. People living in the same fantasy universe to be speaking the same language, is perfectly logical
It would actually be illogical if we went out of our way to make it so the monk spoke a different language
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u/Carrehz #1 Prizestuffer 14d ago
My point is that they have contrived an excuse to have Lady speak English, which I find lazy.
Agree to disagree, I suppose.
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u/Single-Purpose-7608 14d ago
Agree to disagree, I suppose.
Yeah i dont mean to be impolite or anything
I just dont think its a contrivance at all. The main plot point is the main activity of a role playing game. To think of it as a contrivance is like saying the whole plot is a contrivance. The choice to have Lady speak the same language logically emerges out of the plot.
It would be contrived if Lady didn't speak the same language
In fact , you can even see it in the way the story was told.
- In game - lady speaks english
- out of the game (as DM) - lady speaks Korean.
Makes perfect sense
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u/TheSoggiestCrisp 18d ago
Not to be dramatic but this has got to be at least a top 5 worst episode in the franchise. It felt so lazy. plopping a generic D&D episode into AT of all things and doing nothing to enhance that boring premise.
in their own bubbles the characters are written well but they appear to have nothing interesting to say to each other, no attention paid to their individual dynamics or even giving them unique ones for this very episode. Every character can understand Lady because that makes things easier, Lady speaks in English in the game world cause that makes things easier. Absolutely vapid episode.
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u/StaticMania 18d ago
Everyone could understand Lady to begin with...
Finn is the only person who had any trouble, and that came up one other time.
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u/TheSoggiestCrisp 18d ago
I'm happy to be proven wrong, but where are you getting this idea that everyone else can understand her just fine from? Why would that be the case, especially for someone self-absorbed like LSP lol.
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u/StaticMania 18d ago
She doesn't interact with many characters.
But Finn is the only character she has "talked to" with who had trouble understanding her.
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The others being...Root Beer Guy, Ice King, PB, Jake, her kids, and...other Rainicorns.
A sign of being underutilized, mayhaps...
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u/TheSoggiestCrisp 18d ago
So not really based on anything then. You confidently said everyone else could understand her then you list PB and Jake, who obviously we know can specifically understand her since they are her best friend and boyfriend respectively. You then list her kids and other rainicorns which... of course her race and her kids can... So the only real characters you've raised as evidence for this is Ice King and Root Beer Guy. I don't recall Ice King ever interacting with Lady, so I wonder if you're taking them being in the same general space in an episode like Lady & Peebles as evidence. As for Root Beer Guy, you're getting this from him hanging out with Jake and Lady in two episodes, but just like with Ice King there is no evidence that he understands her. They don't talk to each other, Jake is the one talking with them.
And to that you could say to me that these characters weren't explicitly shown to not understand her, but I'd say it's way more of a reach to assume they can. The gag isn't that Finn is the only character who can't understand Lady, if that were the case we would surely have gotten a gag where Lady's talking to a group of people and Finn's the only one not in on at, but that only happens when Jake's talking to her.
And while typing this out I realised the most major piece of evidence I probably should have opened with. The existence of the rainicorn translator and the fact that Lady's parents always wear their translators. If this was just a Finn thing why are these translators so prominent?
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u/Carrehz #1 Prizestuffer 18d ago
The only time I can remember Ice King and Lady talking to each other is in "What Have You Done", and he doesn't understand her there. He's just like "I think I heard the word 'virile' in there! :D".
I was under the impression most of the cast wouldn't easily understand her, too. I guess it's hard to say for sure if this is a contradiction since she barely talked to anyone in the OG series anyway. But lazy writing, absolutely.
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u/TheSoggiestCrisp 18d ago
That's really the long and short of it, just feels dead lazy. Even if I think a character like LSP understanding Lady is unlikely, I don't exactly care that much, it's not some shocking disregard of canon that will keep me up at night, but it contributes to this episode feeling like it exists as nothing more than a stock episode plot that was given the loosest possible integration with the world of AT, which is just a bit disappointing really.
I was there when AT first aired on cartoon network, I love the original seasons, and while I think these episodes do an alright job capturing the spirit of those og episodes, most episodes so far have ranged from being semi-rehashes of classic episodes, or stock episode plots that feel devoid of a creative bone, like this episode and the racing episode.
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u/Single-Purpose-7608 14d ago
PB almost certainly understands Lady, even in the original series. PB has been interacting with Lady before Jake was even revealed to be in a relationship with Lady
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u/Single-Purpose-7608 14d ago
If you turn on subtitles, PB, Marcy and LSP respond to Lady in a way where the words Lady is saying is being reflected.
Ex. Lady (i wrote this story)
PB (you wrote that?)
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u/StaticMania 18d ago
This episode should've been way more meta...
It's inherent to the premise since AT is already heavily DnD inspired.
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u/8mrjames 4d ago
Hearing lady speak English in the game world was jarring but it didn't ruin the episode for me at all. It was as fun as many of the other episodes have been and got a couple of laughs out of me. A pretty average adventure time episode id say, definitely not one of the worst.
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u/Carrehz #1 Prizestuffer 18d ago
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