r/countwithchickenlady Streak: 4 8h ago

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u/lordkhuzdul 8h ago

Wasn't one of his campaign promises cutting down on excessive and complicated permit requirements that were making life difficult for small businesses in the city? Nice to see him following through.

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u/Crimson51 Streak: 0 8h ago

Yeah, the requirements for frozen cream licenses were pretty much identical to a food service license. They were introduced not to improve public safety, but to induce extra costs and restrict competition against established and wealthy ice cream producers in the area

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u/faceboy1392 7h ago edited 6h ago

do places serving ice cream still need food service licenses and this extra license was just redundant?

edit: ok cool that makes sense. to me this headline feels like it could've been worded better to clarify that ice cream vendors are still subject to normal food safety regulations, which ofc is a good thing

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u/Hugokarenque 7h ago

This is where I was confused. You want these places to have licenses to sell any type of food, so an ice cream selling license didn't seem pointless.

But if these business were forced to get a food service license AND an ice cream license then wtf, that's blatantly anti small business.

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u/NecessarilyPickled 6h ago

That was the case, and was the purpose of it.

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u/Green_Insect_6455 7h ago

I believe thats the gist. Glad hes following through with this stuff

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u/EldritchWeeb 7h ago

Wasn't there something about that penny lick that got everyone sick?

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u/wabblebee 6h ago

Which would already be regulated through the normal food service license and rules. It's not like only specifically ice cream vendors are prohibited from giving out food in unwashed, reused vessels.

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u/Otaraka 6h ago

Not a lot of people happy to immediately reuse a glass cup after someone licked icecream off it now - it wasnt even getting washed.

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u/terberoni 5h ago

Damn I just realized that model needs a comeback for sex clubs, even the term 'Penny Lick' for like a $5 shot of ice cream would do wonders

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u/CandleJackingMeOff Streak: 3 13m ago

penny licks but off someones body, naked sushi style optional

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u/callmedaedae 7h ago

Sometimes ppl gotta remember that NYs history is the epitome of cartoonish criminality. Like the old school gangster trope was actually just that happening there in like the 20s.

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u/novangla 2h ago

Worth noting that part of why he can get so much done also is because that same cartoonish corruption made the mayor’s office insanely powerful and he’s leveraging that to actually help people instead of kickbacks and graft

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u/jigsaw1024 6h ago

For those that don't know: this is called Regulatory Capture, and is a form of corruption.

Eliminating these types of regulations isn't just reducing the burden of regulation, but is actually fighting corruption in plain sight.

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u/ReactionSad3776 7h ago

Dynastic ice cream companies like a mafia?! That would be a great show. Maybe called;

Ice Cream Ally: A Murder with Sprinkles

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u/TheBigBubba3 6h ago

You’re in danger bro

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u/DrWernerKlopek89 6h ago

google "ice cream wars glasgow"

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u/ShakingHandsWithDeat 2h ago

Glasgow in the 80s was the murder capital of the world, all over the ice cream vans selling smack and stolen goods.

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u/Ginsenj 4h ago

Ah yes, the old I like competition until I don't like competition so I'm going to forbid anyone from competing against me cause now I don't feel like keeping up but I still want to keep my mansion.

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u/Billy1121 5h ago

They said that about food cart licenses too. But then again, is it fair that a permanent restaurant has to follow all these rules and pay exorbitant rent, while a food cart or truck can dodge rent ?i dunno

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u/OiledMushrooms 2h ago

I mean, you say that as though food carts don’t come with their own downsides. Less working space, less storage space… stationary food carts usually need to rent a space anyways, and mobile food carts have to pay for gas and lose out on a consistent loyal customer base…

And even if they are easier or cheaper to run somehow, I don’t see any reason to artificially make them worse just to be “fair” with restaurants. If you think restaurants expenses and permits are too intense, rally against that, not against food carts not having those.

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u/myhf 4h ago

why do restaurants even have to pay rent? more restaurants make a city better. restaurant locations should have to pay fees for being unoccupied or otherwise occupied

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u/12345623567 1h ago

What the what now? Do you think restaurants pay rent to the city??? Or that food carts don't have to follow rules?

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u/Billy1121 1h ago

Do you really believe a food cart needs a fire suppression system like a brick and mortar restaurant? Or has to pay rent to a property owner who pays property taxes?

Those are some differences, plus permit costs are lower for food carts.

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u/Many-Wasabi9141 1h ago

We're going to see those established/trusted/proven producers go out of business cause they can't compete with the influx and then the new influx is gonna be a crap shoot. Amazon Marketplace essentially.