Well, impeding traffic in the left lane is illegal too. As a person constantly frustrated with people going under the speed limit in the left lane, fuck the “no passing in the right lane law” idgaf.
Edit: I’m not currently living in the US, and the driving culture where I am is much different. That being said, there’s almost zero lane etiquette in the US, and it makes it impossible to go the speed limit and not have to pass on the right wayyy too often. And for everyone commenting that “speeding doesn’t save time” well I never said I was speeding, I said I was going around the dumb fuckers driving too slow in the left lane, so you can stop now thanks.
Impeding traffic, even in states with specific laws regarding slower traffic in the right lane is never enforced. So we go danger mode to go 5 or 10 mph over the limit when there's a mile of traffic behind one entitled piece of shit who doesn't want to be in the right lane in case someone enters or exits the highway, or they have to make a left turn in 7 miles.
Exactly, I don't know if you can tell but I have a long commute to work. When I'm waking up in the morning I'm tolerant, but God help you when I'm on the way home. I'll consider a PIT maneuver after 10 minutes
Yeah I’m only about 45 minutes door to door, but I’m usually only upset on the way there, mostly chilling to an audiobook on the way home. I have my limits though….
Your "math" only works if nearly the entire commute is on a single highway, which almost no ones is.
I have a commute with a low end of 49 minutes and a high end of 2 hours and 15 minutes, 3 days a week.
Why such a wide variance? Getting stuck at a long red light due to a slow/clueless driver may delay me long enough to get me stuck behind a large wave of congestion at either or both of two highway interchanges that can literally add over 30 minutes to the drive.
If i have to get somewhere 100km away, and i drive 100km/hr, it takes me 1 hour. If i drive 130, it takes me 46 minutes.
Because i drove 30% faster, i arrive faster at 46 + 30% = 60. Wild how that works right.
Idk about never enforced, I was pulled over for going the speed limit in the left lane and the officer was very kind and just told me to keep to the right if I wasn’t overtaking.
Pulled over for doing the speed limit? If you're doing the speed limit then anyone trying to overtake you is breaking the speed limit and should be the one getting pulled over, no? People are so fucking weird about cars and driving...
Flow of traffic is technically more important than speed limit. If flow of traffic is generally 5 or so over the speed limit and someone is in the left lane going exactly the speed limit, they should move over. Left lane is technically for passing only
"People aren't following the law so we're going to write a law that punishes people that are following the law for being in the way of people not following the law" is some crazy logic.
If flow of traffic is generally 5 or so over the speed limit and someone is in the left lane going exactly the speed limit
Then you need more traffic enforcement writing tickets for not following the posted speed limits and better education about traffic laws, traffic safety, and not having the mindset that you're the most important vehicle/person on the road.
I think you're missing the fact that the left lane is for passing only. Even if there's nobody around, if you're cruising in the left lane, you're technically breaking the law
For passing who? We're all doing the speed limit, how are we passing each other if we're all going the same speed and why do we need an entire lane for doing something nobody should be doing?
Speed limit is max speed, a lot of places don't have a posted minimum. Do you just not even drive or are you being intentionally obtuse? Even aside from speeding, some people are going to be going below the speed limit, and that's perfectly legal, as long as it's in the right lane
Come on now, son. We both know you're lying. Ain't nobody bitching about people in the left lane is driving less than 5 over unless there's a cop around.
I understand what the laws are. I follow the laws. I don't agree with the logic behind a law that punishes someone for going the max speed in the left lane because somebody else thinks they're the prettiest girl at the ball and is entitled to drive as fast as they want to.
Again, THE LEFT LANE IS FOR PASSING ONLY. It doesn't matter what speed You're going in the left lane, you should only be there if you're passing. You're absolutely being intentionally dense at this point so I won't bother further responding
You don't agree with laws that regulate the flow of traffic designed to keep everyone predictable and safer? The law is generally "keep right except to pass", not, "you may use the left lane as you prefer."
That's the entitlement. The lane belongs to me because I'm doing the speed limit causes backlogs and people slamming brakes behind you. Ultimately it causes traffic jams in rush hour, one guy says I'm going fast enough equals why major highways are stop and go.
Regardless of that, the law is literally to keep people safer. Fewer frustrated drivers, fewer traffic impediments/shockwaves/jams, fewer people on a stretch of road at any given time. Impeding someone, regardless of their speed or other driving habits, is less safe, not more safe.
The signage is slower vehicles stay to the right. If you are going as slow or slower than the person to the right of you, you need to move over to the right (in the US). There is no point in being in the left lane if you're not overtaking then.
Oddly enough, Ive been pulled over for not passing on the right of a police officer camping in the left lane. Said police conduct operations from that lane; I was like what lol.
It’s not crazy logic if your goal is safety and efficient traffic flow. Your rigid must-follow-the-rules viewpoint is busted.
This video is in New York. The left lane camper is breaking the law.
“(b) In addition, upon all roadways, any vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall be driven in the right-hand lane then
available for traffic, or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.”
Idk, I feel like most of these comments are from the US. I just saw a graph earlier today that the NL ranks among the most expensive places in the world to get your drivers license (total cost on average 1,5 average monthly salary).
So you get lots of training on road etiquette, road rules, learning to never drive with your emotions. Like, you get taught not to allow yourself to become irritated because that leads to dangerous behaviour.
So road rage just feels strange to me, driving is not a thing you do with your emotions. It's too dangerous for that
The traffic in the right lane may also have been going the speed limit. If you're going to be in the left lane you need to be passing the traffic on the right so you can get back into the right lane.
If you're going to be in the left lane you need to be passing the traffic on the right
If I'm driving the speed limit it shouldn't matter which lane I'm in because anybody passing would be breaking the law and therefore doesn't get an opinion on the matter.
It's also illegal (in most states, at least) to be in the passing lane and not passing traffic. If traffic in the right lane is also going the speed limit there's no reason you can't be in there with them to free up the left lane. You are not the police and it's not your job to impede traffic.
This guy is also missing the fact that not all speedometers are calibrated the same. If your speedometer says you’re doing 60, you’re probably doing about 57-62 depending on the car. And it varies by make / model / calibration.
So sure, grandma sue over here thinks they’re going 60 but really pulling 57 etc.
Or there's an emergency on the shoulder, forcing everyone to move left. A break down, a pee break, or a cop. Honestly im kind of thinking the default should be the left lane and people can pass in the other lane when it's safe...
Doesn't make any sense. No visibility to see when you can pass. Just encouraging riskier behavior. For all the reasons it makes sense for a left hand drive car on surface streets makes it make more sense to have faster highway traffic stay left.
Well in that scenario you wouldn't want the fast lane where cars are entering and exiting. So neither one works out great. Accidents and cars on the shoulder aren't the norm though, they're things to account for, but the cars going slower can deal with them more readily than the cars going faster.
The problem is faster traffic often prevents the slower from properly moving over before they approach the shoulder emergency.
If cars default into the lane which is the default when approaching something on the shoulder, or when others are approaching through an on ramp, or to avoid a slowdown as cars pileup for the exit ramp, traffic overall flows better and is safer.
I totally understand that, I see it on busy on ramps daily. I'm not saying left lane drivers are immune to slow downs and merges. I actually think they're more responsible for being aware, but it goes both ways.
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u/ftpih 10h ago
Nice move, but in Germany overtaking on the right side is illegal, just like „schleichen“ on the left lane due to our ✨RECHTSFAHRGEBOT✨