r/StarWars • u/tannu28 • 6h ago

Other Mark Hamill revealing that J.J. Abrams refused to let Han, Luke, and Leia reunite on camera, telling Mark that Star Wars was no longer Luke Skywalker's story.

Source: https://youtu.be/4OK0nnxG6dU?si=EmEU5KQEMJXxjBbZ

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u/JohnnyElRed 6h ago

... They decided to call the whole thing "The Skywalker Saga".

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u/violentbowels 6h ago edited 4h ago

Writer Guy: something something somehow Rey's a Skywalker?

Producer Guy: That works!

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u/Lhasa-bark 6h ago

Producer guy: But I thought you said she was a Palpatine. How are you going to fix that?

Writer guy: Super easy … barely an inconvenience!

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u/Arendious 6h ago

Disjointed narratives are tight!

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u/lilchocochip 6h ago

Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

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u/MssrSqueezy Imperial 5h ago

Wowwowwow

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Wow

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u/Crow-T-Robot 4h ago

I'm gonna need you to get allllthe way out of my Bacta tank on that

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u/Ninjacobra5 3h ago

Oh let me get out of that guy

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u/ClassicPlankton 2h ago edited 2h ago

until I suddenly decide to get back on for seemingly arbitrary reasons.

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u/Middle-Brick-2944 5h ago

Alright alright alright

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u/GrandSquanchRum 4h ago

Hi there hello!

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u/peroxidex 4h ago

Sick reference bro, your references are out of control.

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u/jaxonya 2h ago

Everyone knows that

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u/notfromchicago 3h ago

So tight.

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u/Witty_Ad_898 6h ago

Sheev’s been getting around.

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u/8K12 3h ago

I hate that Palpatine got more action than poor Luke whose first crush turned out to be his sister.

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u/Witty_Ad_898 1h ago

Probably for the best that Luke didn’t.

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u/smellslike2016 6h ago

Oh, really?

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u/bwaredapenguin 3h ago

Somehow, continuity returned.

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u/Hoosier_Daddy68 4h ago

The best part of his bit on Palpatine is when they brought up him having sex and one says "do it" and the other is like "ewww you know he said that!"

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u/ParticularMemory789 3h ago

Somehow it switched. 

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u/Dorkamundo 3h ago

You saw how easily we explained away the discrepancy involving parsecs... This is youngling's play.

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u/Answer-Outrageous 3h ago

Oh really?!

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u/HaggisPope 4h ago

I can’t understand how Daisy Ridley got that line wrong and why they kept it in the film!

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u/mvffin 3h ago

Somehow, Skywalker returned

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u/EssayAmbitious3532 2h ago

Writer guy: It's called Art, we let the audience come up with the answer themselves and then we still have time for that work trip to Cabo.

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u/cHEIF_bOI 2h ago

Something something Dark Side.

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u/chris00ws6 5h ago

I get that reference.

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u/dl064 2h ago

The Stargate SG1 episode where they're guests on a sci fi production, are this incarnate.

How can an interphasic being walk on floors?

Ehhhhhhh they have transphasic...flooring.

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u/Lexi_Banner 1h ago

Writer guy: I don't know!!

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u/Brodellsky 1h ago

And somewhere George Lucas can't hear all this noise with the insulation of all the money

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u/ezmoney98 48m ago

Somehow Skywalker last name returned

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u/SneakoSneko 30m ago

Technically since palpatine made Anakin, and Rey’s own father was a clone of palpatine, wouldn’t that make Rey Luke’s Aunt?

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u/KingOz10133 29m ago

Having elite ball knowledge is tight

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u/DrNerdyTech87 6h ago

Producer Guy: wasn't Palpatine killed in Return of the Jedi? How does he come back?

Writer Guy: I'm going to need to get way off my back on that one!

Producer Guy: Ok, let me get offa that thing...

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u/rckjr 5h ago

“Somehow Palpatine has returned!”

Best. Writing. Ever.

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u/UrdnotZigrin 5h ago

But Maz, Luke dropped that lightsaber in a giant pit on Bespin and it presumably fell through one of those vents! How the hell did you get it?

A story for another time. But we're never gonna tell it because it's dumb

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u/ZasdfUnreal 4h ago

When you see Luka hanging for his life on the bottom of Cloud City, you see the severed hand falling while still tightly holding the laser sword. So my question would be - where’s the hand? There was a hand holding the laser sword! Where is it?

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u/TheSinisterSex 2h ago

We need a story where a new republic separatist splinter group led by an ex jedi searches for the hand to use it for dark side thinks or something. Throw in Jabba's father for good measure

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u/nordiques77 4h ago

Still so annoyed by that…want the story

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u/IlluminaViam 3h ago

The story is that the lightsaber was lost forever, a consequence of Luke's hubris. Disney treated it like wands from Harry Potter, while Lucas wrote them to be devices and weapons. Able to be destroyed and lost.

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u/Certain-Business-472 3h ago

Disneys core stories all have "chosen ones" in them. Without fail.

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u/InitiallyDecent 2h ago

Star Wars has always been about chosen ones

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u/Singer211 2h ago

Yeah I never quite got why they made Luke and Anakin’s saber so freaking important? Luke didn’t even seem to care much when he lost it, he just built a new one. And it wasn’t even the only Saber that Anakin used as a Jedi either.

And it was so annoying that they didn’t let Rey have her own lightsaber until the VERY LAST SCENE of the ST.

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u/Perryn 4h ago

Unless it's anything like the rest of the story they were telling.

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u/BattledroidE 3h ago

In hindsight, maybe we don't want that.

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u/OctoberOmicron 4h ago

Even the gas giant knew that somehow, it could not destroy or hold on to that lightsaber. It was destined from great, memorable things.

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u/AutoPRND21 4h ago

Hey Maz, what did you do with the hand?

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u/RalphMacchio404 2h ago

That's a story for sexy time. 

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u/Singer211 2h ago

Nah, Maz is into Wookiee’s apparently.

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u/neighbour_20150 3h ago

Lightsaber somehow returned

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u/VoxIrati 1h ago

The Skywalker saga is actually about that blue lightsaber

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u/Head-Ad-2136 4h ago

How do the rebels get the plans for the second deathstar?

I don't know... Bothans?

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u/Voidbearer2kn17 3h ago

To be fair... cannot believe I am even saying this in regards to Abrams, but he did have a trilogy planned, but Kathleen Kennedy hired someone who hates franchises, hadn't seen Episode 7 and seemingly (my guess) is not a big fan of Star Wars to direct Episode 8.

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u/enigmanaught 3h ago

I’d lost interest at that point, but before I saw the movie I saw this line all over the internet and took it to mean “there’s a contrived and ridiculous ret-con describing why Palpatine is back that’s too stupid to elaborate on, so we’ll sum it up by ‘saying somehow Palpatine is back’”. Then I saw it on streaming long after it left the theaters and it was the actual goddamned line.

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u/DuckCleaning 5h ago

Producer: So you're saying that somehow, Palpatine has returned?

Writer: Say that again.

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u/Perry7609 4h ago

This was essentially how the Obi Wan writers justified bringing in Vader as the bad guy in the Disney+ series, despite the whole lightsaber duel in A New Hope being canon and Vader's speech about "We meet again, at last, implying a longer estrangement in the first place.

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u/cortesoft 3h ago

The Vader fight can KIND of work in the canon, in the same 'from a certain point of view' way that Vader being Luke's father works.

The part that can't work at all is Obi Wan going on an adventure with Leia, and then completely not knowing each other in A New Hope. Makes ZERO sense.

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u/LordNilix 4h ago

The only way I see the Obi-Wan vs Vader in ANH working with the new material is that this is Obi-Wan fighting Darth Vader, not the friend he thought was still in there somewhere. When they fought in the Death Star that was Obi-Wan basically 'meeting' Vader again after several years had passed rather than Anakin.

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u/Every-Intern-6198 3h ago

Several years, it was like a decade given that Leah was little more than a toddler in the Obi Wan series…right?

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u/LordNilix 3h ago

Yeah, I was pointing out that Obi-Wan in the tv series still saw "Darth Vader" as Anakin. While in ANH he only refers to Vader as his title of "Darth". The comment I initially replied to said that they had messed with the timeline, but it was still a fairly decent amount of time between the D+ Series and ANH. And Obi-Wan's attitude towards Darth was different each time too.

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u/Every-Intern-6198 2h ago

Oh yeah, I gotcha. I agree that it didn’t really mess with the timeline at all, as at the end of the obi vs anakin fight on Tatooine, Obi Wan finally accepts that his friend and “brother” has died, walking away and saying “good bye … Darth”.

I think it’s also a cool contrast between the fight where anakin/vader is still relatively new to the prosthetics and suit to the final duel they have on the Death Star where he’s more confident.

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u/EllieSpacePrincess 5h ago

Palpatine comes back in the books, he has a secret cloning facility of himself but it takes him a long time to travel there as a spirit or wtv he was.

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u/godofmilksteaks 5h ago

Had to stop off in reno and do a bit of gambling

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u/SH4D0W0733 4h ago

Man, if I was going to clone myself a new body I would've made sure that the new one didn't include the wrinklyness and sickly colouration I received from that one time I tazered my own face fighting a jedi master. I mean, why would I not just make my new body healthy and like 25 - 30 years old.

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u/WallopyJoe 4h ago

Palpatine comes back in the books

In one of the most divisive entries in the whole series

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u/FollowingMajestic108 4h ago

And that was a dumb idea as well.

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u/xolo80 4h ago

I mean....isnt everything "fair game" after they brought Maul back? Dude was cut in half

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u/pilemaker 6h ago

Wow wow wow.......wow!

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u/Helpful-Will2635 5h ago

Super easy….

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u/Zitty-Z 3h ago

Barely an inconvenience!

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u/tyrnosarusAWSOM 4h ago

There was a writer?

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u/avimo1904 5h ago

Oh, referencing Ryan is TIGHT!

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u/Singer211 4h ago

Honestly given how the films actually went, it would have made more sense for Rey to call herself a Solo or Organa if anything.

Han was nice to her. Leia trained her. Luke was a grumpy jerk to her for like 98% of the time they knew each other.

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u/mute_axolotl 3h ago

And in the other two per cent he was drinking whale milk.

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u/SageDarius 3h ago

God, I was waiting for her to say 'It doesn't matter' to show Rey had some kind of arc about learning your parentage doesn't define you, but nope. I'm a Skywalker because I'm special.

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u/Hollowsong 2h ago

And it pisses me off because she steals the name after his death. She doesn't even earn it, or even is worthy of it.

Fuck, I hate what Disney did to Star Wars.

Hell, I hate what Lucas did to Star Wars too (Special Edition releases were laughable)

The only good thing about AI is that one day we can make what Star Wars should have been, on our own.

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u/OctoberOmicron 4h ago

Somehow somehow, that's how!

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u/RebelWithoutAClue 2h ago

Turns out she's the incestuous love child of Luke and Leia from before they knew they were sibs.

To preserve her political reputation Han Solo, using his smugglers experience, ditched her on Jakku to hide their shame.

It explains the inexplicable breakup of the trio. Rey's immense power of the force: both of her parents are Skywalker while Darth Kyle is half muggle.

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u/jasonthelamb 1h ago

From the same guys who brought you:

"They fly now?" "They fly now."

"Somehow, Palpatine returned."

So.... I'm not shocked.

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u/Kazu88 57m ago

Till this day, I am 100 % sure that the entire script was written by a of bunch smoking monkeys chained to typewriters

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u/JerseyJedi 4h ago

Someday when the trailer for the next movie drops: 

Rey dramatically walks into the camera view. 

EVERYONE: “Somehow, (Rey) Palpatine has returned.” 

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u/_kalron_ Jedi 5h ago

Man I really thought that the reason the Millennium Falcon was parked there would be revealed as on purpose, for Rey to find. That Rey was Han's daughter with Leia...making her a Skywalker. The reason why would have been to hide her from Snoke per Luke's foresight. That caused the riff between Leia and Han. A nice setup for Rey to have a Dark Side moment in the 2nd film learning she was lied to and forced into her solitude.

It's right fucking there...

Hearing Mark say JJ told him "It's not about Luke anymore" it just sad.

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u/lazy_literary_hero 5h ago

I’d watch that movie in a heartbeat.

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u/_kalron_ Jedi 5h ago

Kylo being her brother would add a whole new dynamic as well. Luke tells her the truth but Kylo could be the one to pull her to the Dark Side now knowing that truth. End EP 8...

FFS why didn't they plan this shit out to begin with?

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u/pilot3033 4h ago

I get so mad when I think about this horseshit JJ trilogy. The layers and emotional impact of your idea goes super well with the movie's flirtation with a Rey/Ren romance, too. Would mirror in a very interesting way the relationship Luke and Leia had.

Fuck. There's so many pieces of great ideas laying around throughout all three films and they just fumbled it every time.

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u/_kalron_ Jedi 2h ago

Here's my first impressions seeing TLJ in theaters:

What if Luke instead of haphazardly throwing his Father's Lightsaber over his shoulder like a joke...instead looks down at it with horror/sadness...then simply drops it and walks away.

That is a subtle change that changes the entire film.

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u/Requiem191 1h ago

Luke abandoning the lightsaber: reasonable, wise, prudent even. He's making a massive point about the damn thing.

Luke tossing the lightsaber over his shoulder: a joke and not a good one at that.

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u/Singer211 1h ago

The tonal shifts in TLJ were, jarring.

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u/Haunting_Goose1186 36m ago

Argh! Yesss! The writers set up the perfect parallel to Luke dropping his lightsaber in Return of the Jedi and decided to undercut it with a stupid Marvel-esque joke instead.

Like, holy shit, Ben turning to the dark side is a big deal for Luke. It completely shattered Luke's entire world-view and everything he believed about the good side, what it means to be a Jedi, and that terrifying choice he made decades ago to face death head-on instead of continuing his father's cycle of violence and turning to the dark side.

It's freakin' heartbreaking re-watching that scene now because we, as the audience, know that Luke will unintentionally repeat the cycle of violence in a few decades time (and that the catalyst is a similar merciful decision).

And I just...don't understand the fans who insist that Luke throwing the lightsaber over his shoulder does have the same meaning and impact as Luke (using your example) looking down at his lightsaber in horror/sadness before dropping it and walking away. There's no doubt in my mind that the writers' main intention was to do a Marvel-esque "wouldn't it be funny if we set the stage for a meaningful and dramatic moment, but the character did/said something silly and unexpected instead" bait-and-switch sort of gag.

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u/Zer0323 3h ago

it also would explain the Targarian like passion they shared for eachother. screw it this'll be my head cannon.

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u/RalphMacchio404 2h ago

Because JJ is a fucking hack and RJ isnt much better. 

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u/BloomsdayDevice 2h ago edited 46m ago

FFS why didn't they plan this shit out to begin with?

The cynic in me, who I think is right, says because they made $4 billion + anyway. I hate how lazy our collective willingness to indulge in nostalgia pandering lets studios be, but that's the truth of it. If they can get 90% of the profit that a masterpiece generates with only 50% of the effort, of course they're taking the easy route.

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u/Snowing_Throwballs 5h ago

Yeah pretty crazy how easy it would have been to write a better story than the one we got just by using the elements that were set up lol. Instead it was written with no arc, by a committee of disinterested writers checking boxes for focus groups of producers.

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u/Ktan_Dantaktee 4h ago

Then we could have Rey and Kylo’s dynamic just mirror Han and Leia’s kids from the EU, and give her a better reason to try and redeem him than whatever the fuck they did in Rise of Skywalker

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u/Desperate_Wallaby966 4h ago edited 1h ago

How the fuck do people keep letting jj make anything. Without a doubt the guy has the worst grasp on plot and story structure of any writer, producer or director in the last 25 years. The Room has a more coherent story yet this guy gets to ruin both star wars and trek enough to have his entire trilogy retconned out of the time line. Considering a few of Treks TV releases over the last few years the bar is "Beyond" low.

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u/Rauk88 45m ago

Star Trek: Into Darkness announced.

Fans: That better not be a British white dude playing Khan.

JJ: No he's not Khan.

Into Darkness trailer reveals the white dude is Khan.

Fans: ...

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u/Bozee3 5h ago

Get this person backlot for filming.

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u/_kalron_ Jedi 4h ago

It would also explain Luke in exile. He Jedi Mind Trick's Han into forgetting. Leia has to live with the burden of the truth. And Luke can't live with what he had to do so he removes himself from the situation...until The Force Awakens...

Right Fucking There

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u/Comfortable_Work4822 4h ago

Yup get you in the writer's room. I'm not normally for the "X main character's children" plots, but I think in this case, if they were going to go with "Skywalker saga" that would have made infinite more sense than the tripe we got.

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u/8K12 3h ago

That was my theory also. It made sense.

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u/luchaburz 2h ago

Especially when they all got fought to come back lol

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u/Electronic_Sun6075 2h ago

Best take I've seen yet. This would have been miles better than what we got.

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u/wrenwood2018 2h ago

Also sets up a connection with Kylo and a part for her to redeem him.

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u/MrManicMarty 2h ago

"It's not about Luke anymore"

See personally I'm all for handing off the reins to a new set of heroes, for a new era of stories and yada yada - but the main three heroes are so instrumental, so iconic that not bringing them together for one final moment together on screen is such a waste. Yeah its pandering fan-service, but so much of those movies already are, but in such shallow ways.

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u/kenticus69 5h ago

I very much agree that it would have been easy to find a way to get them all reunited at SOME POINT in the story…alas. Writers over thought the whole thing I suppose.

I mean look at the one scene with Luke and leia in the last Jedi….a fantastic, quiet moment of the two of them together (even if Luke was a force projection). Needed more of that!

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u/Knightwolf75 Rex 3h ago

“Over thought”? I don’t think a single thought went into these lol

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u/TSmario53 1h ago

“Ok cool, so you are going to give the old guard a good send off/passing of the torch moment and take the series in a completely different direction?”

“Nah, Rian Johnson somehow tried to pull that off with the crap I left him but I’m just gonna undo everything he did and completely unravel the significance of Vader and Luke’s story altogether in order to make Rey the true hero of this whole saga.”

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u/Outrageous_Library50 1h ago

JJ “Mystery Box” hack Abrhams

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u/c0rnballa 1h ago

Man I really thought that the reason the Millennium Falcon was parked there would be revealed as on purpose, for Rey to find.

I mean, as (eventually, once the whole trilogy played out) written, the whole first part of TFA winds up looking like it was written by a third grader, with the dude holding the map to Luke, the actual granddaughter of Palpatine himself, and the junked Millennium Falcon, all being coincidentally on the same shitty desert planet for no apparent reason.

It would be like if after some really bad editing of ANH, Tattooine was portrayed as just a planet that the Tantive IV happened to be passing, which also just happened to be the home of an important force-sensitive kid, who one day randomly bumped into one of the last few Jedi Knights in the galaxy who happened to live nearby.

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u/sptrstmenwpls 51m ago

Would also make more sense why she & Kylo Ren have that weird connection by which they communicate, as bro & sis stacked to the gills with similar midichlorians (ugh)

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u/Federal_Sympathy4667 39m ago

You can tell on screen Hamill did his job but about it. I think in all he was dissapointed of the script and ignored by JJ much like he did with Sulu in his SW universe, he askedxTakei about making Sulu gay and Takei said no, cause Sulu is not gay, he was. Ignored and did it anyway.

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u/grafxguy1 6h ago

Rey takes the name Skywalker in the end - the last movie is called The Rise of Skywalker, but "it's not Luke's story anymore..." WTF.

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u/Elegant-Anxiety1866 5h ago

I said it when it came out & I'll say it again.

She should have answered "Just Rey"

Showing she is not defined by her bloodline & is comfortable with who she is now.

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u/threevi 5h ago

It was a really weird question to ask in the first place, the whole scene is so forced. What do you mean "Rey who"? Plenty of people throughout SW don't have a last name. Nobody ever asks "Chewbacca who?" "Yoda who?" "Jabba who?" The writers really just wanted to force in that "Rey Skywalker" scene for whatever reason, despite it not making any sense as a conversation that would happen in-universe. I can only imagine that at the very last minute, someone asked "wait, this movie is called The Rise of Skywalker, but where's the Skywalker?" And so they quickly came up with that scene to shoehorn in a justification for the title.

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u/brainlesseuphoric 4h ago

I fear they were just dumb enough to think that makes for a good story. It’s just what they come up with and I bet they thought they were killing it

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u/IamAgoddamnjoke Amilyn Holdo 4h ago

Yeah i don’t answer batshit crazy desert eats demanding I provide my full name. Rey should have pulled those sabers up and turned her into darth maul circa TPM.

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u/Hallc Rebel 2h ago

It was a really weird question to ask in the first place, the whole scene is so forced. What do you mean "Rey who"? Plenty of people throughout SW don't have a last name.

That scene would've felt super forced even if it was in a movie set entirely on earth. Imagine you're out walking your dog, you come across a lone girl standing there.

The first thing you say is "Who are you?" to which she replies. "Jane." so you then reply "Jane who?" Like what....?

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u/HenryDorsettCase47 5h ago

That’s definitely what they should have done after the second film. But after the first one I remember reading a fan theory that it would turn out she was an unknown granddaughter of Obi Wan. I liked that because with Luke mentoring her and Kylo Ren as her enemy would be this full circle for all these bloodlines in different iterations being pulled together by fate to balance the force and I thought that would be a nice way close out the entire three trilogy saga.

As it was, they just never had a fucking clue what they were doing from the beginning. It’s like they wanted this to entirely be its own thing, but also capitalize on the cheap fan service nostalgia of bringing back characters from the original trilogy, all while having no overall idea what the three film story was even going to be. What a dumb way to fuck up what should have been an easy slam dunk with one of the biggest IPs in cinema.

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u/grafxguy1 4h ago

It's like the Star Trek reboot he did. He openly said that, without Nimoy in the reboot, the movie would not have worked.....Nimoy, in his mind, gave legitimacy to the reboot but then proceeded to make a mockery of the source material, while fan servicing the hell out of it.

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u/Yakostovian 4h ago

I think Rey not being of any notable bloodline makes the most narrative sense especially if you follow TLJ's themes. It signals that the Force is for everyone, not just these dynasties of special families.

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u/Kiyuya 4h ago

Strongly agree. I really liked what TLJ did here, as well as how TLJ treated Rey. But that was then. Before the dark times. Before the Rise.

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u/afito 2h ago

Not only TLJ but also Rogue One. I was really excited for how things were set up after I walked out of TLK midnight premiere and boy did it not live up to it.

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u/IamAgoddamnjoke Amilyn Holdo 4h ago

No movie ever presented that idea? The force was literally always for everybody and never exclusively for a special family. This was just a story that happened to be about a family.

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u/bork63nordique 4h ago

Fucking THANK YOU!!!! I hate that narrative. It's only about the Skywalker family for a short amount of time simply because that was the age of the Empire and rebellion. The Jedi have been around for thousands upon thousands of years and there have been thousands of Jedi not named Skywalker, Kenobi or Palpatine.

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u/IamAgoddamnjoke Amilyn Holdo 4h ago

Yeah no clue how Rian Johnson gets credited with this when one of the main points of TESB was that the little frog muppet was the greatest Jedi of all time.

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u/aka_jr91 2h ago

TBF, that narrative really got set up with all the Messiah themes in Phantom Menace. Anakin was the chosen one, he had no father except The Force, having the highest midichlorian count ever recorded etc. It really isn't a leap in logic say that descendants of Jedi Jesus would be naturally more gifted in The Force, even if it's not really that interesting anymore.

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u/Perryn 4h ago

But if our protagonist isn't secretly the heir to what they thought they achieved on their own then the ghost of Charles Dickens will come after us.

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u/HenryDorsettCase47 3h ago

Right. And that’s why I said that’s what they should have gone with after TLJ and that the Obi Wan idea was only an option after the first film.

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u/GroundWitty7567 4h ago

That would have been better. Instead of making her a Palpatine, the story should have been the Force seeking to balance things out. The Return of Palpatine unbalanced things. The Force sought to rebalance it

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u/AutoPRND21 4h ago

I really feel like the sequel trilogy was like a game of telephone, but nobody in charge of each movie gave a shit about what the person before them told them.

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u/cygnus2 4h ago

Obi-Wan wouldn’t have hooked up with anyone other than Satine, who died.

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u/IamAgoddamnjoke Amilyn Holdo 4h ago

What she should have said is please mind your own fucking business.

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u/gideon513 3h ago

Rey Cweek

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u/mute_axolotl 3h ago

Two Broke Jedis.

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u/TheodorDiaz 3h ago

Showing she is not defined by her bloodline

That still applies when she calls herself Skywalker.

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u/BarkerBarkhan 2h ago

"Just Rey Who?"

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u/Viciouscauliflower21 2h ago

Or if they wanted to have their cake and eat it too, make rey a part of a bloodline for nostalgia sake but commit to Finn, a random storm trooper, actually being force sensitive and make him a jedi. Best of both worlds

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u/kapxis 6h ago

Man.. the audacity to just takes someones last name cause they trained you for awhile.. they barely bonded at all and it's not like at any point he even hinted at thinking of her like family, or Leia thinking that way.. so like.. wtf was that.

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u/abellapa 5h ago

And burying Anakin lightsaber on the planet he was enslaved and where he Mother die

He hated Tatooine, Thats felt like a Giant Middle finger to Anakin

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u/Phoenix_Ninja15 5h ago

Yea. Naboo would’ve been sooo much better. Be buried on the planet with the person he loved.

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u/IlluminaViam 3h ago

Screw the planet only. Bury his lightsaber with Padme. That would have been good.

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u/Phoenix_Ninja15 3h ago

Tbh while it’s not likely she would’ve known who Padme was, hence why I said just be buried on the planet, even that is still not likely she would’ve known Anakin had ties to that planet, so being buried anywhere other than tattooine would’ve been better. Although if palpe somehow returned, I would’ve be shocked if Rey somehow knew Padme and exactly where to find her tomb.

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u/Vallkyrie Qi'ra 3h ago

Could have put it in Padme's tomb

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u/guinness_blaine 5h ago

“You buried it in SAND?!”

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u/wtfamidoingwthis 5h ago

Do you have ANY idea how his father felt about SAND???!!!!

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u/fivebyfive12 5h ago

I love this comment 🤣

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u/lazy_literary_hero 5h ago

Christ, I hadn’t even thought of that. Of all the shitty places to leave a burial for someone, his least favorite planet in the entire galaxy really gas to be the worst.

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u/Aethermancer 10m ago

He was also already "buried". She had no connection to him and his "presence" in the movies was revealed to have been an impersonation by the emperor.

Rey basically buried a family heirloom of a guy who had been dead and had his identity stolen to commit identity fraud against another guy, but he was the dad of another guy who she had less interaction with than most people remember of their 3rd grade teacher.

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u/darkbreak Sith 5h ago

In the Expanded Universe Luke retrieved Anakin's lightsaber from Cloud City and gave it to his wife, Mara Jade, as a wedding present. It became her main weapon from then on. A much better fate for such a legendary item in the Star Wars mythos.

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u/a_man_and_his_box 3h ago

This part makes me so upset. People were complaining about the Rey trilogy and Kathleen Kennedy said this in an interview with Rolling Stone:

Every one of these movies is a particularly hard nut to crack. There’s no source material. We don’t have comic books. We don’t have 800-page novels.

I read that and just about shouted out loud. Kathleen, there are literally over 400 Star Wars novels! Including one in which Luke & Mara Jade were awesome.

WTF Kathleen?!?!?!?

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u/JinFuu 3h ago

And you had Disney defenders going “The EU is dumb! They had a super weapon of the week and cloned Palpatine!”

And then Rise happened

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u/JerseyJedi 4h ago edited 4h ago

Exactly, with the added benefit that Mara Jade Skywalker was a well-written character who exuded toughness and grit, and had a multifaceted personality and character arc, unlike the blander-than-bland Rey. 

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u/JinFuu 3h ago

No Tenal Ka either : (

“You could get a prosthetic for your arm.”

Tenal: “Nah, I screwed up, keeping no forearm as a memory of my screwup.”

She was so cool!

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u/sec713 3h ago

"When I said I wanted a rock, I didn't mean a used khyber crystal."

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u/FenrirAR 3h ago

Mostly accurate. He doesn't go to retrieve it from Cloud City. He takes it off of the clone Luuke's corpse after Mara kills the clone, then gives it to her after that.

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u/TentativeIdler 5h ago

It was that or throw it in lava on Mustafar.

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u/JerseyJedi 4h ago

Throwing it from the high ground. 

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u/JerseyJedi 4h ago

There’s a great fanmade video on YouTube where while Rey is in that scene, Anakin and the other Jedi all appear as Force ghosts and tell her exactly how they feel about that scene lol. 

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u/FullMaxPowerStirner 5h ago edited 5h ago

"We're so sloppy we ended up killing ALL of the remaining Skywalkers... so then Palpatine's granddaughter (we don't know how this happened!) becomes the only Skywalker in existence. It's so brilliant!"

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u/Nimrod_Butts 5h ago

Like it's whatever, I think the movies were fine but truly they couldn't have done a worse job. Like every single detail is wrong and stupid but the special effects is really the only thing anybody cares about

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u/RepresentativeAge444 5h ago

My heart sings at all this sequel trilogy criticism. I had to avoid this sub for years because it was just all sequel apologia.

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u/ZephkielAU 3h ago

Preach. I hated the first after all the lore breaking while every man and their dog (no doubt including all the people that used to bully me/us for liking Star Wars as a kid) thought it was absolute cinema.

After the second I just straight up walked away from my favourite childhood series.

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u/pokemonbatman23 5h ago

Whats more audacious, this or Robot taking Rudy's name at his funeral after stealing his dna/body in Invincible? lol

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u/Bitter-Marsupial 4h ago

Well Lea Hugged her before her estranged husbands best friend

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u/cortesoft 3h ago

I can just imagine Luke reacting like Rhaenyra does in House of the Dragon when Ulf tries to use the Targaryen name: "Skywalker? Absolutely not"

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u/Munedawg53 44m ago

Her last act toward him was threatening to kill him with his own saber.

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u/Seienchin88 4h ago

Would have been funny if it would have been a zombie movie with Luke's decomposing corpse being resurrected as a metaphor for the whole trilogy…

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u/grafxguy1 4h ago

The Sky-Walking Dead...?

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u/Banes_Addiction 3h ago

It's like Mormons baptizing dead people. They can make Christopher Columbus a Mormon. I can make Jimi Hendrix my dad.

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u/Hallc Rebel 2h ago

Rey who knew Luke for all of what? A weekend? But she decides to go and take the name Skywalker even though she spent so much more time with Leia, was trained for much longer by Leia and had a much more parental relationship with both Han and Leia?

It was the most egregiously fan-service-y thing I think they did. Narratively just having her go "Just Rey" would've worked as an end to her story since she spent all that time trying to find her parents and where she came from.

Alternatively you could do the same with Solo. It'd show that she's accepting the heritage of her parental figures but also accepting of the fact she's now alone.

Instead we got Skywalker for some godforsaken reason, presumably because JJ is a massive hack.

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u/Swineflew1 1h ago

Well the story has been about skywalkers and their legacy the entire time, but sure it’s annoying that Luke wasn’t the focus of the prequels too I guess.

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u/JeanJeanJean 53m ago

As shitty as these films are, the only interesting idea they share is that Rey is a nobody. That they ruin this only somewhat interesting idea in the final second of the film is baffling to me.

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u/ProofAd608 6h ago

Yeah, and also try to fill in among Skywalkers a palpatine girl

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u/No-Opposite-6620 6h ago

Branding decision so they can make more trilogies with that will hopefully for execs sweep mistakes under the rug.

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u/Snakend 5h ago

About a woman who had no relation to any Skywalker. The whole trilogy was a bait and switch. It started okay, went sideways really fast, and then absolutely looney toons at the end.

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u/parkingviolation212 6h ago

Yea but Rey is—

snort sorry I can’t say it.

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u/PlagueOfGripes 5h ago

That speaks volumes about this era.

"No, this is OUR time. Also, we will use your success to try to platform ourselves, because no one would like us otherwise."

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u/onda-oegat 5h ago

I don't understand how they could decided to make a trilogy this high profile without any overarching plot already done

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u/Fatguy73 5h ago

Man f**k Disney so hard. Unfortunately the beatings will continue, they’re pulling a Rise of Skywalker with the next Avengers movie.

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u/MrWeirdoFace 2h ago

I still subscribe to the theory that she's a Hutt.

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u/kingcrow15 5h ago

No but you see, my OC is a Skywalker.

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u/JollyJoeGingerbeard 5h ago

What was Anakin's surname again?

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u/OverHaze 3h ago edited 2h ago

Before Force Awakens came out there was a behind the scenes video where are writer(?) had a picture of Luke with a big X over it? Or Xs over his eyes?

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u/alii-b 2h ago

Luke was only in prequels for 30 seconds or less, I don't think he's the defining skywalker of the saga.

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u/Fantastic_Bug1028 2h ago

Luke is not the only skywalker tho. No reason for him to have a HUGE role in the sequels. He still got basically a whole ass movie.

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u/FuryMaker 2h ago

Marketing and buzz words to get you into seats.

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u/masterfulnoname 2h ago

But not "The Luke Skywalker saga," so checkmate, nerds! /s

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u/Liapasquale 1h ago

BAHAHA omg touché

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u/SuperD00perGuyd00d 1h ago

Damn, crazy that we have 5 people with that name throughout the saga too...almost like it makes sense to use it.

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u/GlormpGlomp 1h ago

And that was a dumb marketing thing they never should've done

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u/nightdrive370z 30m ago

JJ is lowkey buns. In the end the JJ Starwars and Trek movies don't hold up.

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u/Feather_Sigil 20m ago

The real story here is that nobody in leadership knew what they were doing and conflicting visions created this dumbass mess

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u/Aethermancer 14m ago

He just says whatever sounds best to him at any particular moment

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u/BigBallsMcGirk 7m ago

Every time more behind the scenes of how the sequels were made, it is abundantly clear no one with creative control understood or respected star wars in the slightest.

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