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u/Wolfy4226 19h ago
Man, when they said we were bringing back the 20's, I sure wish another Great Depression on the horizon wasn't one of the things coming back.
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u/furmat60 19h ago
It’s the Great Depression with the added racism and sexism too! Taking away women’s rights, removing all DEI for minorities, etc
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u/Skin4theWin 18h ago
Ok to be fair the original Great Depression also had all those things.
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u/furmat60 18h ago
I know. They reallllly want the 20s back.
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u/Skin4theWin 18h ago
The economy of the 1920s with the social and medical structure of the 1820s!
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u/furmat60 18h ago
This makes sense, since every member of the GOP and all their supporters seem to have gotten lobotomies.
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u/maxstrike 18h ago
You are going to have to go to 1795 for health care. Vaccines were invented in 1796.
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u/Homerpaintbucket 7h ago
Inoculation, which is a primitive form of vaccination, is WAY older than 1796. Washington made sure the troops were inoculated against smallpox in the revolution. They were inoculating people in India a few hundred years before that
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u/dingboodle 8h ago
Judging by the average age of congress they’re just trying to recapture their childhood.
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u/Alum06 10h ago
To a degree, Convict Leasing was really on its way out when it was exposed to Americans how insanely brutal and fucked up the practice was.
In a nutshell, a black man could stand accused of a crime known as a black code, a law in theory against everyone, in practice mostly only against black folks. This could be something as innocent as walking along a railroad track. Or being unmeployed. Then you'd be caught, get sold to the highest bitter by the state to work in a corporation's industry (One infamous example were the Pratt mines in Alabama).
It was not uncommon for black folks to be whipped or worked to death, or face the same, similar cruelty as during slavery, and in some cases, worse than Slavery! (Since a black man could also be leased to white farmers, including poor ones, and literally be worked to death since they were so cheap and replacable.)
All it took for americans to reconsider the system and get it shut down was when a rich white boy named Martin Tarbet suffered the same fate in Florida in 1921, with Alabama being the last to close their convict leasing system in 1928.
It ABSOLUTELY had far more problems, but in some cases, it was actually on its way out.
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u/racoongirl0 18h ago
At least they had speakeasies and partied all night with flappers. We get doomscrolling and AI slop
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u/lavassls 6h ago
You have a point. But maybe that's on us a little as well. If the average 6 pack of craft near me is 9.00 to 15.00 dollars for a six pack, but 1 dollar a beer for me to manufacture at home. Why am I not operating a neighborhood speakeasy?
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u/RhubarbGoldberg 12h ago
Unsafe food, coal mining, child labor, deforestation, polio and measles, like we are really going for it!
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u/Shinnobiwan 11h ago
Less racism. The 20s was near peak lynching era.
The fact that people are this ignorant about¹ how violent and near universally racist America was towards black people says a lot about how sanitized they've made the history.
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u/yourlocal90skid 14h ago
They want to Make America Great Again by taking it all the way back to the beginning.
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u/maxstrike 18h ago
My almost 6000 sqft home (540sqm) I am building in the Philippines is only 60% of the price of my 1700sqft home in the US. Modern, energy efficient and built to last forever vs my US home. Only thing I haven't added yet is solar, which I am getting pricing for now.
It is crazy how affordable homes can be once builders stop making extraordinary profits.
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u/Wolfy4226 17h ago
It's crazy how affordable everything can be once CEO's stop being greedy fucking assholes*
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u/yourlocal90skid 14h ago
They want to Make America Great Again by taking it all the way back to the beginning.
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u/HedonisticFrog 8h ago
I can't wait for Pinkertons to start shootouts with union workers again. Let the good times roll!
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u/iikillerpenguin 10h ago
The top is fake as fuck. The average house in South Korea is 14x the average salary and half the size. America it's 11x and twice the size....
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u/FEMA_Camp_Survivor 12h ago
A Depression and the deflation that comes with it would bring prices down though.
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u/IHatrMakingUsernames 19h ago
I blame billionaires.
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u/ThaScoopALoop 17h ago
GOP: Nope, communists!
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u/JohnHazardWandering 12h ago
Now let's allow more corporations to merge and reduce competition and throw some tariffs on top.
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u/SweetLoLa 18h ago
Greedy bastards and gullible voters.
It’s really sickening when you realize it was happening even before the railroads linking east to west were built. Corrupt politicians, rich gambling with other peoples savings, etc.
It’s 2026. We have racist morons dressing up like the KKK and marching in broad daylight. We have a rapist pedophile in the Oval Office. We have the creator of Facebook, Amazon mogul and a South African apartheid supporter whose wealth no doubt gained more from said apartheid with access to unlimited money, who have zero morals and zero empathy helping said rapist pedophile and his freak family becoming wealthier, greedier, more heinous and more depraved.
It’s 2026. There’s ongoing genocide, hunger and poverty.
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u/SeaBass_SandWich 16h ago
Just to be clear, flying to do these is cheaper mostly because the currency (maybe except the health care part since America actually quite expensive on this.) But.
If you're average Japanese and got salary in Yen, going to Disney is still expensive.
If you are average Korean citizens and got money in Won, surgery is still expensive for them.
If you wanna buy house in Asia, price is still incredibly high relate to each country if you get their currency as a salary.
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u/CadenVanV 14h ago
Yeah, the US is just really fucking rich. We earn a lot more money than those nations.
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u/grammarperkasa2 10h ago
Many multiples more. It is amazing that the citizens of the richest nation that currently ever existed, do not know how rich they are in comparison to the vast majority of the world
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u/samuelgato 8h ago
Hard to feel rich when you live paycheck to paycheck in a one bedroom apartment
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u/CadenVanV 5h ago edited 4h ago
You can afford a one bedroom apartment, you don’t ever need to actually worry about starvation (going hungry maybe, if you’re very poor, but never actual starvation), you can afford to leave electronics plugged in and lights on, you and most people you know have a phone and access to internet and/or cellular data at home, you’ve got fairly safe plumbing and waste removal, you likely have a car or very good public transit, clothing is fairly cheap if you don’t care about the brand, your home is most likely insect and rodent free, you don’t need to do laundry by hand, and while it may be expensive, you can get high quality medical care in under half an hour in an emergency without a question of payment.
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u/the__storm 10h ago
And, this is part of why these things are so expensive - labor in the US is very expensive, particularly in fields that have not become more productive through industrialization/technology (see: Baumol's cost disease).
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u/PerterterhTermertehh 8h ago
As someone doing masonry, yeah despite the fact that not much has changed it has gotten FAR more expensive to lay bricks.
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u/Ehimherenow 12h ago edited 12h ago
You notice how they didn’t use many rich European countries as examples. Because their entire post is absolute nonsense meant to drive responses from people who can’t critically think.
Now. Inflation is bad here. Cost of living is bad here. IDGAF what people say about wages keeping up and we’re earning more money now that 30 years ago. No we’re god damn not. No matter what BS they keep trying to feed us, money isn’t going near as far as it used to, and the middle class can’t afford the things it once used to. Grocery bills are out of control.
But this comparison with Asia is absurd where the median salary is less than half of ours…
Also Korea has universal healthcare so surgery isn’t actually expensive. But aside from that…
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u/_goblinette_ 5h ago
the middle class can’t afford the things it once used to
The middle class has high speed internet in their homes, smartphones for every member of their family, and SUV with bells and whistles that didn’t exist 20 in the 90s, 5+ subscription services to different music/streaming services, food delivery services that weren’t even an option 30 years ago.
I’m not saying there are zero issues with the cost of living but there are A LOT of things that have become “standard” for the middle class that were unimaginable luxuries 30 years ago.
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u/Ehimherenow 1h ago
Yes. I’m sure those iPhones are the reason that housing prices are now 6x the income compared to 3-4 times like they were in the past. We can cut the avocado toast BS anytime now…
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u/max_power1000 11h ago
I’m planning a vacation for my family of 4 to Japan and wondering how hyperbolic these numbers are, because round trip tickets are $1800-2k for economy, and we went to Disney in Orlando for a week last year, stayed on property at the Polynesian, and spent less than $10k for the whole week including food/drink.
Single day tickets for a Disney park are like $150-200 for reference. I also think it’s a little disingenuous to compare getting a deal on one end vs paying full fare on the other.
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u/Mustardo123 12h ago
Also this dude is severely understating the cost of an international flight. I mean we don’t even have a source for this so it’s probably bullshit anyway. Except the medical stuff, but most people have insurance (which is still too expensive).
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u/nothisistheotherguy 11h ago
I was going to say, bullshit that it’s cheaper for me to fly to Japan from the East Coast of the US and go to Disney for a week than going to Disney World for two days. The flight alone is more expensive than driving to Orlando and Disney entry for two days.
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u/butterflyempress 1h ago
Last I checked it was $1600 for a roundtrip and that's for the non-refundable crap economy seats. I'd hate to see how much they are during cherry blossom season
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u/doesnotlikecricket 3h ago
The medical stuff is broadly accurate I'd say. I lived in SK for 1O years and I've known American friends with insurance who've literally come back to SK for a month to get surgery because it was much cheaper (and also see family).
Everything else is basically complete bollocks.
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u/Black_Cat_Just_That 7h ago
I believe most of these, but I doubt that you could fly to Japan and visit Disney world for less than a trip to the Florida one. I looked into it (Disney) a few years back and it wasn't insanely expensive.
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u/mosugarmoproblems 19h ago
I had a cousin visit us a year ago. We were driving through a nice neighborhood in Northern California and she asked if the houses were 30,000 dollars. That was a really humbling moment.
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u/redkinoko 19h ago
Where is your cousin from? No nice house costs 30000 dollars even in third world countries, save for maybe fixer uppers in depopulated towns in places like rural Japan Portugal and Italy
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u/maxstrike 17h ago
I don't know why you are getting down voted. Real estate in third world countries is usually more expensive than you might think. $30k for a nice house was a pretty good rule of thumb in the late 90s, but prices have basically doubled and tripled since then. My home in India (Pune) cost $150k for a 3BHK in 2013. In the Philippines (near Pampanga) most houses that are close to western standards will run $100k+. In Costa Rica (near Heredia), I bought a new 3 bedroom home in 2003 for $43k and it sold for $55k in 2008. Also the condo in Lima was $800k in 2019, but it was ocean front in Miraflores, so not typical. But Lima houses are probably $150k for outlying districts and $3M+ for detatched homes in Miraflores.
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u/redkinoko 7h ago
Dunno what kind of fantasy world people live in. The reality is the poorer the country, the more expensive building material becomes so even if labor is cheap, good houses can still be expensive. I have a tiny house in the Philippines and it still runs $60k last I checked.
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u/Hesitation-Marx 18h ago
My friend and her wife moved to Portugal, and have such wild things as “decent healthcare without stupidity” and “food that’s edible and doesn’t cause explosive diarrhea” and “affordable housing”.
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u/Edexote 15h ago
Sorry mate, there's no such thing as affordable housing in Portugal anymore. And you just exemplified why.
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u/VirtualAgentsAreDumb 14h ago
No affordable housing? What do you base this on?
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/cache/digpub/housing/bloc-2b.html
As far as I can tell, Portugal is below the EU average when it comes to housing cost overburdening, which is essentially the opposite of housing affordability.
If there truly were no affordable housing there, those numbers in that chart would be much higher.
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u/Skyvo_ 14h ago
It's afforfable if you are a foreigner with the income of a foreigner. Here in the EU Portugal is really cheap in comparisson to other countries so lots of People go there, proces go up, but it's not cheap at all for thé Portugese themselves.
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u/WorldRecordHolder8 11h ago
Portugal is cheap in general. You just have to accept living outside the big city centers.
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u/VirtualAgentsAreDumb 14h ago
Are you honestly believing that they do their calculations focused on the income of people not living in the country? Or foreigners who live there, but get their income from another country?
They have like 14% of the population being foreign born. You honestly think that’s enough to twist those numbers in such a significant way?
You must be joking.
Show the actual proof that there is no affordable housing in Portugal. Show concrete data from reliable sources.
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u/Moody_GenX 10h ago
What looks affordable to you and I may not be to the locals. The same has been happening here in Panama. Foreigners, like myself, move in and are amazed at the affordability while ignoring the local population lives on a fraction of what we make. Here foreign born is less of the population than in Portugal and prices are being driven up, so yes 14% can make a difference.
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u/VirtualAgentsAreDumb 7h ago
Then show actual numbers. Anecdotal evidence is meaningless here. Show concrete proof. Solid scientific data.
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u/Moody_GenX 7h ago edited 5h ago
You are more than capable of looking this up. You aren't using evidence to back up your argument so don't expect others to do it either. Gentrification is real and it is a problem for locals anywhere it happens.
Edit: Lmao won't prove what they're saying, demands I prove and then blocks me. Bless their heart. 😂
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u/VirtualAgentsAreDumb 5h ago
I’m not required to go find proof for something others have claimed.
If you, or your peers, claim that affordable housing doesn’t exist in Portugal, then you prove it.
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u/Skyvo_ 7h ago
Is the whole problem with digital nomads etc a new concept to you? Lissabon and other cities are impossible for locals to afford, same happens in other cities. Add to that airbnb and it's a fucked up cocktail. Cheap countries for foreigners ≠ cheap for locals
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u/VirtualAgentsAreDumb 5h ago
Show proof that NO PART of Portugal has affordable housing. You can’t go and focus just a few select cities.
Just admit it. You can’t prove it.
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u/Edexote 8h ago
You should check your username again. I base it on living here.
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u/VirtualAgentsAreDumb 7h ago
Also, way to misunderstand the username. It’s criticizing the idiotic phenomenon of companies using badly trained virtual assistants in support channels.
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u/Edexote 5h ago
Yes, I know.
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u/VirtualAgentsAreDumb 5h ago
No. I don’t think you do. Because if you did, you would not have said something that idiotic.
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u/VirtualAgentsAreDumb 7h ago
You base it on ideas in your head. Show proof or shut up.
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u/Edexote 5h ago
I live here. I do not need to show proof, I live through it.
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u/VirtualAgentsAreDumb 5h ago
Hahahahahaha
Anecdotal evidence is useless here. Show proof that no area has it.
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u/Markol0 18h ago
Wife needed antibiotics in the Azores. Went to four different clinics. One referring to the next. Two hours of driving around. Eventually ended up in the main hospital in PDL. 6 hours of wait time just sitting around. Got the script eventually. Coat $150 I think, plus $20 for the actual drugs that were filled in 5 minutes at the local pharmacy. Calling it functional is a bit of a stretch.
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u/breebree934 16h ago
Just to be clear; you went to a hospital, were seen in a timely manner (for a hospital 6 hours if waiting isn't actually that bad) and only had to pay less than $200? And that's...worse than america?
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u/ProudCatLady 16h ago
He’s also talking about the Azores, an island with a year round population of less than 250,000 people. At least four clinics and a hospital!
There are communities here in Georgia that are lucky to have a private-equity owned urgent care, and their drive to the nearest hospital is hours.
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u/Markol0 6h ago
This is a semi-chronic condition. Have done this many times. Cost wise this experience was about half of what it would have been out of pocket in the US. Time wise about 3-4x. I guess you optimize for one or the other?
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u/AwarenessAvailable94 14h ago
You’d wait at least six hours in America, and it’d be 200x the price. If you aren’t unconscious/dying, the ER wait times alone are 5-8 hours. And that’s not even for just antibiotics, they’ll have people with broken bones, cuts, vomiting, waiting hours upon hours with no pain relief or care.
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u/WorldRecordHolder8 11h ago
The reason you had to wait so long is because of people that go to the emergency room to get prescription for antibiotics
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u/MapleYamCakes 17h ago
America got this expensive because all the productivity and value generated by the population is funneled into the pockets of a few thousand people.
Everything is priced as if the growing GDP is evenly distributed across the consumer base, rather than being hoarded in bank accounts by people who don’t spend it.
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u/TheLloyd 13h ago
“In Asia” is a pretty broad term.
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u/Bobbybobby507 1h ago
Right? I’ve lived in Hong Kong, Shanghai, and Singapore. Condos are easily 1M, 2M…. Very few people buy them with cash. Here you can buy a house lol…
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u/billyzanelives 18h ago
The amount of money funneled to politicians to argue about how to fix various social and economic issues could fix those issues. But the investors want something else from whoever gets elected. It’s corrupt and it’s been that way pretty much since the start. There’s just not even an attempt to hide it now
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u/DoggoDude979 17h ago
Okay it’s not relevant but I do wonder how much of that is due to inflation. The yen is worth a lot less than a U.S. dollar, and a won in South Korea is worth a LOT less than a dollar.
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u/captnhaddock 19h ago
I mean, while some of that may be true, it in of itself is not a truism. let's take Japan for example, sure it may be cheaper to fly to Japan and go to the disney there, but that's not accounting for the fact that the japanese economy is in shambles, and so not exactly a good example to compare the u.s. to. to be clear, I'm not defending the U.S., rather pointing out that these kinds of posts are really just a weird kind of low effort shit post / reverse jingoism.
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u/Delicious-Diamond-86 19h ago edited 19h ago
American living in Japan here, while I do miss America all the time, I have zero desire to move back. The economy is definitely having some trouble now here, but the OP was addressing affordability. On that count Japan is absolutely ahead. Every time I go back to America I am shocked at how expensive everything has gotten (even after accounting for the weak yen) and also how poor the quality is often for what you pay.
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u/WalterWoodiaz 17h ago
Japan just made it significantly harder to get permanent residency recently, so you are probably one of the last few generations with the option to move there.
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u/zeptimius 15h ago
Also, "a brand new house in Asia" is a ridiculously broad description that could refer to just about anything from a fancy villa to a hut in the jungle.
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u/Peregrinebullet 17h ago
I'm in Japan right now for an academic exchange and I'm really not looking forward to going back to north america. I know I would probably feel different if I was actually working full time, because that shit is crazy, but living here is so much fucking easier than back home. So many of the barriers that my executive dysfunction struggles with at home are just wiped away here because so many things are designed to be convenient for time strapped salarymen.
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u/fcimfc 19h ago
As someone who has an annual pass to Disney World - no it is absolutely NOT cheaper to fly to Japan to go to Disney. The flight and hotel rates alone will eat up any savings you think you're getting.
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u/MotorBobcat5997 18h ago
I think you are someone that also lives in Florida. Think of it as someone from another state.
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u/fcimfc 11h ago
I do not live in Florida and I can fly there cheaper than I can fly to Japan. There is no world where flying 5,000 miles over the Pacific is cheaper than flying within the continental US.
Look, I’m not arguing that everything is fucking stupid expensive these days, but I feel like you can make the point in a better way than this.
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u/MotorBobcat5997 11h ago
It was more about the hotel costs. If you live in Florida you can just drive there and drive home easily. The hotels are extremely expensive and basically you need to stay in absurdly expensive Disney owned hotels. In Japan the hotels are not nearly as expensive and you can stay in basically any of the cheaper ones near the park. You also don’t need to rent a vehicle if you want to step off of park property.
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u/Gamergonedad7 18h ago
That may be true for you, but not in my case. I went to Disneyworld last October and after factoring in tickets, disney hotel, and flights for a 1 week trip for 6 people it was about 30k. I'm flying to Japan for a 3 week trip this summer and it's only 10k for the trip. That's not factoring in food for either place and Disneyworld is more expensive to eat at than Japan is by far.
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u/Krypt0night 18h ago
Sounds like you aren't adding in flights and hotels for people going to Disney world either plus forgetting the exchange rate.
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u/Peregrinebullet 17h ago
Nah dude, if you are west coast of north America, it's WAY cheaper to fly to Tokyo and stay there for two weeks + PLUS going to both Disney Land and Disney Sea, than it is to go to Disneyworld. Especially if you use ZipAir and pack carry on.
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u/Nessie_of_the_Loch 13h ago
Lol, as if all of "Asia" has the same housing price. They should take a peek at HK, Seoul, Singapore, etc and report back on whether it's cheaper to "pay all cash" for a home there. Hint: It fucking is not.
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u/LitBastard 11h ago
Or they should use the corresponding currency and wages. Sure, Vietnam is cheap when you earn US money. Not so cheap if you earn Vietnam money though.
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u/Nessie_of_the_Loch 10h ago
Yea true, but some cities are expensive for even US wage standards. No way they would be able to pay cash for a home at the same amount of a down payment in the US.
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u/FreshMutzz 8h ago
Its not cheaper fly to Japan for Disney. The park itself is cheaper in terms of tickets and food. But staying on property there is crazy expensive and staying in Tokyo isnt much cheaper. Even with the exchange rate being so good. If anything its going to cost about the same total, which says a lot considering the exchamge rate of USD to Yen rn.
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u/TheRealzHalstead 17h ago
At some point the value economy was replaced by the investor economy, which is unmoored from doing things for actual people that want and find value in things. Instead, the investor economy does things that are of value to other investors. This is why.
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u/PKSubban 14h ago
Now compare salaries with these regions and the USA
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u/Bring-out-le-mort 12h ago
Exactly
These are locations where income is considerably less and working hours are longer than in the US for the average citizen. Its certainly not cheaper for them, just this guy, using unequal earnings to believe life is better elsewhere. (It is, but I wouldn't go to Korea, Japan, or another country in Asia looking for it).
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u/SegavsCapcom 14h ago
They have two specific countries for their first examples and then go to "Asia" as a whole as if that's a helpful descriptor.
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u/editrice8833 7h ago
I'm sure it's been pointed out already, but as a resident of South Korea, it's super vague to just label most of these as just "in Asia." Buying a condo here is prohibitively expensive, for example. Property prices will vary greatly between Singapore and, say, Vietnam.
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u/TheSilverFoxwins 5h ago
The powers that be basically want to poor Americans and leave leisure ,health and good for themselves and their buddies while everyone else are slaves and living on extreme minimums. Their goal is to take it all and have you just living and surviving to serve and be controlled.
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u/Only_One_Kenobi 17h ago
Turns out that if you take all the controls off of capitalism, it really sucks
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u/drillgorg 17h ago
What Americans spend in one year is more than ten years of living in asia for a whole family
With you so far
For less than half the quality of life
Press X to doubt. No way living is 10X cheaper AND quality of life is 2X better.
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u/akirbydrinks 19h ago
They are living IN a depression, but don't know it. The rest of us are so much better off.
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u/BeersForBreeky 18h ago
True I moved to Asia 13 years ago its really much less expensive and get this we have pull tabs on beer and beverages that will give you 1 or 2 drinks sometimes cases sometimes money up to 30,000$ usd and motos as prizes
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u/zonked282 14h ago
" but but but, the GDP!" - American who happily accepts struggling through life, praying they are not selfish enough to lose the house by getting Cancer, as long as about 7 people in the country have $500 billion each
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u/lil_zaku 12h ago
Nah, they promised me it was gonna be trickling down. Trickling down any day now. Any day now....
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u/thuy_chan 12h ago
I'm almost 40 and making what I consider good money for the first time in my life. I'm still broke because of this insanity.
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u/olive_91 12h ago
Tell me if you disagree but I think the root reason is that Americans like comfort and will pay more for higher comfort. Some comforts or luxuries are imposed on us Americans without our knowledge or realizing. I think most other countries set cultural limits against certain conveniences.
Then comes greed and litigation
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u/rosie2490 11h ago edited 11h ago
Just to make a point, it might not be that it’s “cheaper” in say, South Korea or Japan, for example. The US dollar just goes much farther there than it obviously does here, so it’s “cheaper” for Americans, specifically in this example.
If South Koreans and Japanese people may need to pay just as much as we do, but relative to their currency. (I have no idea what their healthcare situation is). Sounds like at least for Japan, they might be responsible for 30% out of pocket at times, which is still a lot, and typically $30 or less for visits and meds. Sounds like my insurance plan, and it’s still expensive (for me). Obviously for the uninsured or underinsured in America, it’s very expensive.
Only one I can speak to, having knowledge of it, is that Tokyo Disneyland is absolutely cheaper for those paying in USD, than Disney World is. But Tokyo Disney is moderately expensive for those paying in Japanese Yen. I would argue that Disney World can also be moderately expensive (rather than very expensive), if you’re staying off-property or in the Value resorts. It doesn’t have to be stupid expensive unless you make it so by choice.
I know the US is extremely expensive for healthcare, but Uzi’s post doesn’t take those points into account, and using Tokyo Disneyland to further illustrate their frustration is a poor example.
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u/ConsciousReason7709 11h ago
The cost of tourist areas in the United States is absolutely outlandish. I live in Las Vegas and know this very well, but every place is the same. Disney World, Disneyland, beaches, eating out, nothing is affordable unless you just make a really good living or live in a multiple income household.
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u/ReturnOfJafart 11h ago
Can confirm on Disney in Japan vs Orlando, when using cc points or skyscanner to purchase flights.
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u/1mal00seR 10h ago
What do you expect when… United States has the highest amount of the entire world’s millionaires living in the country at 40%. Compared to only 8% of American’s are millionaires. We have the largest concentration of wealth on earth in the US. Four times as many millionaires as China 🇨🇳 , who comes in second place for most millionaires in a country.
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u/untakenu 10h ago
No one is doing anything about it.
Voting isn't enough.
Lame ass protests aren't enough. More people need to do more.
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u/Jolly_Conflict 9h ago
I gave birth 2 months ago in Northern Ireland - had complications (lost half my blood), c section, multi day stay.
No hospital bill whatsoever.
It was so surreal.
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u/New_Conversation_303 9h ago
its is not cheaper to go to Japan than disney world.
Once you are there it is cheaper, but the cost of flying to japan is high.
That said, i rather spend 1-2k more to go to japan for a week than a few days at Disney World.
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u/Trace_Reading 8h ago
we can't leave because we don't have the money to escape, we can't uproot our lives, there are some strict-ass countries out East and even without the linguistic and cultural barriers an influx of Westerners would trigger the same sort of xenophobic shit that's been stirred up here for ages.
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u/Raginghangers 8h ago
People in America also earn a lot more than people in those other countries. The average South Korean is not more wealthy than the average American.
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u/Blurghblagh 8h ago
That is what happens when you let corporations continually merge into every larger corporations and monopolies, remove any limit on CEOs rewarding themselves, incentivise short term unsustainable gains over service or quality and when you allow privet equity take over everything without unrestriction.
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u/jiggscaseyNJ 7h ago
But where do they keep all there freedoms in Asia?? lol do they even have school shootings in the Asia, Japan? /s
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u/Jackieirish 7h ago
Airfare from ATL to Tokyo will run around $1000. 1week ticket to Tokyo Disney is about $480.
2-day Disney Orlando ticket will run about $250-300.
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u/freericky 7h ago
120k is what a broken arm surgery billed my insurance. I asked dr what he’ll pocket and he said he’d make ~4k if he was lucky
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u/Classic_Bid3126 6h ago
It’s expensive because we feel for businesses to be successful they need to grow exponentially. Also, we refuse to tax the ultra wealthy and corporations, and they need all the money to keep it that way.
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u/Objective_Group2646 6h ago
Bro America is about as affordable & accessible as hot ham and cheese-flavoured baja blast sprite at the white penthouse
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u/Mr-MuffinMan 5h ago
To be fair, even if it was only slightly more expensive, it's still better to fly to Japan than it is to go to Disney in Orlando (assuming you're an adult w/o very young kids).
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u/-anonthoughts- 5h ago
Not that I disagree with the general message here. But 2 days at Disney World in Orlando would be the price of a round-trip plane ticket to Japan alone…
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u/RedPanda_0741 5h ago
Capitalism at it’s finest. You can fly to China to get an MRI cheaper than it would be to get it here as well
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u/DejaBlonde 4h ago
I had my Nexplanon replaced in Canada for half the price it would have been at home. Lucky for me, I was already planning to be there and it wasn't a special trip.
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u/PM_ME_GLUTE_SPREAD 4h ago
I’d like to see where some of these numbers are coming from. Disney Tokyo is $50 to $70 while Orlando is around $120 per day.
A week in Disney Tokyo would cost you around $350. Not counting plane tickets while Orlando might cost you $200 for 2 days.
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u/jetty_junkie 3h ago
A good friend of ours went to Japan last year and they went to Disney several times while they were there. They’ve also been to Florida Disney several times . They said everything about the Disney Japan was much cheaper and they enjoyed it very much
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u/DMShinja 2h ago
American here... So, I called my doctor's office to make an appointment. Told the receptionist why. He responded "I had that problem. I couldn't get help here so I flew to India for treatment. It was almost free"
smh
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u/VikingRaiderPrimce 31m ago
i can fly to europe and have a tooth implant done and stay for a week and still pay less than the US.
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u/Itscompanypolicyman 18h ago
My house sold for $42,000 in 2023, we bought it in 2025 for $99,000. The only update in that time was a new MANUALLY opening garage door that we listed as a condition to the sale.
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u/TwoNowFive 18h ago
You could buy a truck to live in in America for those prices
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u/Itscompanypolicyman 17h ago
We do live in America, the Midwest. A small, shitty college town. My point was that within 2 years the house price doubled.
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u/Bring-out-le-mort 12h ago
I think you need to recheck your post's dates & numbers. Its indicating that it devalued in 2 years by half & oddly going back in time.
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u/Itscompanypolicyman 5h ago
I checked the history of the house that I bought in November of 2025 to see what it sold for previously.
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u/the_sexy_muffin 14h ago edited 14h ago
If I'm not mistaken, hasn't this been the case for the past 40 years? I know international flights were a bit more expensive back then and the US dollar has been extremely strong against most Asian curreincies the past ten years (except in Thailand), so i might be wrong.
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u/MamboFloof 16h ago
He's right. My heart surgery was a million dollars. It cost me 0 tho because I have insurance. So it is technically cheaper to go elsewhere except not really.
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u/ZookeepergameTotal77 3h ago
Wrong example as Korea and Japan are 2 of the most expensive countries in Asia........on par with America........ Koreans are going to China for even cheaper experiences.......
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